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Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 4 mars 2022
Publié: 4 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 250 000 $
66 900 000 $
21 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
43 250 000 $
21 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
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PHI
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Søgaard, Mads
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
1st round pick is top 10 protected*
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OTT
  1. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
3.
OTT
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Del Zotto, Michael
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa Senators retain 1,000,000.00*
If Del Zotta plays in 6 playoff games the 7th rounder turns into a 6th rounder
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4 mars 2022 à 18 h 38
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That’s too much for me. They can have JBD + Crookshank and the Sens 2022 2nd
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4 mars 2022 à 18 h 46
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That’s too much for me. They can have JBD + Crookshank and the Sens 2022 2nd


If you think you can get Konecny for that, you don't know the player. Keep dreaming
4 mars 2022 à 18 h 48
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If you think you can get Konecny for that, you don't know the player. Keep dreaming


I know the player. But I’m giving you JBD one of our best RHD prospects. You don’t trade those easily . I’m not giving u 2 prospects we really value AND a 1st
4 mars 2022 à 18 h 49
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I would be hesitant to trade a goalie prospect at this stage, especially Søgaard. Ottawa has had excellent goaltending this season, but even with Gustavsson showing real promise, the long term goalie outlook is still very murky. I wouldn't cast off one of their three goalies prospects yet
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4 mars 2022 à 18 h 53
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I know the player. But I’m giving you JBD one of our best RHD prospects. You don’t trade those easily . I’m not giving u 2 prospects we really value AND a 1st


I have JBD stepping into our lineup next year. Sogard is a good goalie prospect but Philly needs a goalie. Jarventie is still young but we do not know if he's going to be an everyday NHL player yet. We still have our 2nd round pick. If Sens are not competitive next year, Dorion's out. It's been a 5 year rebuild already. Konecny is on a solid 5.5 mil for the next 4 years. He's a power forward who would be amazing in a playoff series and would fit in our identity. We need a top 6 forward who is at a reasonable cap with Jimmy Stu and Sanderson coming up! This would be a great deal for both teams.
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4 mars 2022 à 18 h 55
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I have JBD stepping into our lineup next year. Sogard is a good goalie prospect but Philly needs a goalie. Jarventie is still young but we do not know if he's going to be an everyday NHL player yet. We still have our 2nd round pick. If Sens are not competitive next year, Dorion's out. It's been a 5 year rebuild already. Konecny is on a solid 5.5 mil for the next 4 years. He's a power forward who would be amazing in a playoff series and would fit in our identity. We need a top 6 forward who is at a reasonable cap with Jimmy Stu and Sanderson coming up! This would be a great deal for both teams.


Sogard is the one goalie in our entire team I would NOT trade. Also Jarventie could be a star, one of the youngest players in the AHL, I’d hold off on that .

I don’t like it. At this point just offer Fiala an offersheet for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd
4 mars 2022 à 18 h 58
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Rangers say NO THANKS to Del Zero.
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4 mars 2022 à 19 h 1
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I would be hesitant to trade a goalie prospect at this stage, especially Søgaard. Ottawa has had excellent goaltending this season, but even with Gustavsson showing real promise, the long term goalie outlook is still very murky. I wouldn't cast off one of their three goalies prospects yet


I haven't been that high on a Sens goalie since Robin Lehner. I think Sogaard has Rinne potential. Like you said, would be a mistake to trade him at this stage.

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If you think you can get Konecny for that, you don't know the player. Keep dreaming


Nobody knows what would be the exact value for Konecny

The problem here is Sogaard and Jarventie's potential.. (not to mention the first in 2023 who could be 10-20th OA)

They were EARLY 2nd round picks and have done NOTHING to lose value, au contraire their stock rose a little. They're both worth a late 1st round pick at the minimum for Ottawa and frankly, they wouldn't move them for these picks. But for the sake of the discussion here, let's say they would... That's THREE (3) first and a 2nd for Konecny who has 3 years left before becoming UFA.

If Konecny is to be LW, I'd much rather KEEP these assets and take my chances on RIDLY GREIG, Formenton, Sokolov or Jarventie, etc


I'd be pretty pissed off if Dorion was to give up all that for Konecny considering what Sam Reinhart and Pavel Buchnevich went for last summer
4 mars 2022 à 19 h 5
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Noway Yzerman would do Zadina and Brannstrom 1 for 1, Zadina has more value then Brannstrom. Plus Brannstrom doesn't fit the kind of mold that Yzerman is interested in a Dman.
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4 mars 2022 à 19 h 6
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Noway Yzerman would do Zadina and Brannstrom 1 for 1, Zadina has more value then Brannstrom. Plus Brannstrom doesn't fit the kind of mold that Yzerman is interested in a Dman.


Stay tuned in 2 weeks when the trade happens
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4 mars 2022 à 19 h 13
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Stay tuned in 2 weeks when the trade happens


No thanks, Brannstrom is a tweener. Plus he's tiny.
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4 mars 2022 à 19 h 33
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Konecny is the perfect guy for Ottawa and I'd happily give up those picks + Jarventie and Mandolese.

Certainly wouldn't pay Nick Paul that much. If that's the ask Ottawa should be moving him at the deadline for a 2nd then use that 2nd to get Arizona to take Zaitsev.
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4 mars 2022 à 19 h 57
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Stay tuned in 2 weeks when the trade happens


Sure man, Look at Yzerman's bluelines they're basically 6'0" to 6'8" not like a 5'10" Brannstrome.
4 mars 2022 à 20 h 46
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Brännström is going to be a good defender but he's not a player Detroit needs at this time in their rebuild.
4 mars 2022 à 21 h 30
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Sure man, Look at Yzerman's bluelines they're basically 6'0" to 6'8" not like a 5'10" Brannstrome.


Yzerman is like 5'10". He drafted a number of undersized players. To say he has a size issue would be hilarious since the biggest criticism of him was he was too small. If Yzerman thinks he can improve Branstrom to be a tradable asset or long term player, I don't think he would hesitate. He isn't losing much more than an already failing prospect.
4 mars 2022 à 21 h 35
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Tofolli went for a roster player, prospect, 1st, 4th and 5th.

Eichel went for a good roster player in Tuch, a top level project, a first and a second.

Konecky for a goalie prospect (is Sogaard a high level prospect?), a top prospect, protected 1st and a second doesn't seem unreasonable. If he is getting traded it will be competitive.

I could see Toronto offering Robertson, a first (unconditional), Kerfoot, a second, plus maybe another prospect or AHL / borderline player. Sometimes it about having to beat the other guys price (see Duchene, Colorado trade).
4 mars 2022 à 21 h 49
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Yzerman is like 5'10". He drafted a number of undersized players. To say he has a size issue would be hilarious since the biggest criticism of him was he was too small. If Yzerman thinks he can improve Branstrom to be a tradable asset or long term player, I don't think he would hesitate. He isn't losing much more than an already failing prospect.


Yzerman drafts undersized players on offense not defense big difference, Look at his draft record on D basically Dmen 6'2" to 6'9"
5 mars 2022 à 2 h 6
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Detroit says no thanks
11 mars 2022 à 17 h 16
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Yzerman drafts undersized players on offense not defense big difference, Look at his draft record on D basically Dmen 6'2" to 6'9"


DeAngelo 2014, Gudas 2010, Janosik 2010, Nesterrov 2011, Thomas 2014, Johansson 2019

Lots of examples of under 6'2" D drafted under Yzerman.
11 mars 2022 à 17 h 18
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DeAngelo 2014, Gudas 2010, Janosik 2010, Nesterrov 2011, Thomas 2014, Johansson 2019

Lots of examples of under 6'2" D drafted under Yzerman.


That was then, This is now he's basically drafting 6'2" and above with Detroit.
 
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