Modifié 25 févr. 2022 à 1 h 0
Quoting: In_it_to_winnik
I never said you made it up. Hagel to toronto makes a lot of sense. I just don't believe he's worth all that. Robertson will be on the team next year with a sub 900k aav. Quite possibly the best addition to the team next season. Also I don't consider maple leafs hot stove as a legitimate source. Again yes to the idea but a realistic price (as stated in the article).
I'd give it maybe a 10% chance Mrazek gets traded in season. Off season? Absolutely but you cannot trade goalies like him before the playoffs. Goalies who can legitimately start games and push your starter are far too valuable imo.
Quoting: SakuThornton
Hotstove article contains sources from insiders such as Frank Seravalli (quite accurate).
It's funny, I'm getting pushback on both ends of the spectrum here. Some believe Toronto is giving up too much here, and some believe Toronto has to add a significant amount to the trade. Which is it?
Chicago has already received multiple offers for Hagel that include a 1st and a decent or good prospect depending on the insider reporting, but regardless it's widely reported. Chicago has declined all the offers. Why would Chicago be enticed to move him unless it's clearly a win for Chicago? You have a 23 year old, on a $1.5M cap hit for two more seasons, and a RFA; absolutely the kind of player you want for a rebuild or retool. A late 1st is a bag of magic beans (statistically less then a 30% shot at actually becoming a NHL regular player), and Robertson who right now hasn't proven anything in the NHL and is fragile given his size. Why should Chicago take a late 1st and Robertson? Are you that convinced Robertson will 100% be better then Hagel? I'm not. I get it, he will be an asset in the NHL, but is he going to better then Hagel? I'm not convinced.
As Andrew Shaw said himself (he's a part-time analyst for the hawks) when asked "Doesn't Hagel remind you a lot of yourself" his response was "Yes, but a lot more talented". Do you honestly think a more talented version of Andrew Shaw on a cheap contract for this year and two more seasons and then a RFA to a cup chasing team isn't worth a 1st and Robertson? C'mon If I'm Toronto I'm doing that all day. If I'm the Hawks, I'm not sold as Hagel is the kind of proven young asset you want for a rebuild.
Last point on hagel. that Leafs writer analysis is not very good. It's clear he isn't watching most of Hagel's games to understand the value he brings to the game outside of analytics. To say he's not fast? Really? To say he's not great in the neutral zone really? I agree though he doesn't have a great shot, but he's a total sandpaper type of player, just like Shaw with a high motor and pretty darn quick. Andreas johnson over Hagel...wow, that's a bad take at this point in Johnson's career.
Mrazek is a overpaid so so backup goalie. He had one, what I would call, good season in Carolina (only 12 games and not facing their toughest opponents) but that was also behind the defense in the league at that time....a lot of goalies would look good behind that defense. Toronto made a big mistake signing him for $3.8M...he's not worth that and they will have trouble moving him. He's a fine backup goalie like I said, but he's not worth $3.8M.