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Créé par: Hockey247
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2022
Publié: 20 févr. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Description
Sportsnet saying Blues really interested in Chiarot.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kostin, Klim
  2. MacEachern, Mackenzie
  3. Choix de 2022 ronde en 1e (STL)
  4. Choix de 2022 ronde en 4e (OTT)
STL
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Lundkvist, Nils
  4. Nemeth, Patrik
  5. Choix de 2022 ronde en 2e (NYR)
  6. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Rangers receive a more experienced back up goalie to play behind their star goaltender. Dvorak is the perfect 3c who has an affordable cap hit and can jump into your top 6. Drouin is uber talented and him at 2.5 mill for 2 years is a damn good deal imo for the skill he brings (maybe help LAF as well).
NYR
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
  3. Dvorak, Christian
  4. Lehkonen, Artturi (1 110 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2022 ronde en 3e (WPG)
  2. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (VAN)
VAN
  1. Armia, Joel
4.
MTL
  1. Radulov, Alexander
  2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 2e (DAL)
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Brett Kulak: 925 000 $ (50%)
  • Ben Chiarot: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
  • Artturi Lehkonen: 1 150 000 $ (50%)
  • Ben Chiarot: 1 750 000 $ (100%)
  • Jonathan Drouin: 2 750 000 $ (50%)
  • Artturi Lehkonen: 1 110 000 $ (96.52%)
Enfoui
  • Patrik Nemeth: 1 375 000 $ (2 500 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $66 546 641 $597 561 $3 600 000 $14 953 359 $
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Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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Paquette, Cédric
950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C
UFA - 1
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Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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Pitlick, Rem
917 831 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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Poehling, Ryan
750 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
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Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AG
RFA - 2
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Pezzetta, Michael
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Dauphin, Laurent
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Kostin, Klim
863 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Radulov, Alexander
6 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Kulak, Brett
925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Wideman, Chris
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Montembeault, Samuel
750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Hammond, Andrew
750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Clague, Kale
761 250 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Georgiev, Alexandar
2 425 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Schueneman, Corey
750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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Pitlick, Tyler
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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Perreault, Mathieu
950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1

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20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 9
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Canucks aren’t giving you two 3rds for your cap dump. Everyone else declines except Dallas
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Canucks aren’t giving you two 3rds for your cap dump. Everyone else declines except Dallas


not a cap dump. this is a rutherford type move. your PK sucks. he def helps. your coach will love him too.
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 12
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Chiarot is not worth a 1st
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 12
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Chiarot is not worth a 1st


of course not. but thats what he'll fetch in this market
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 14
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of course not. but thats what he'll fetch in this market


I think the best we'll get for him is a 2nd. I don't think any team is desperate enough to give up a 1st for him
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20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 16
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I think the best we'll get for him is a 2nd. I don't think any team is desperate enough to give up a 1st for him


nah. he'll fetch a 1st. i had people on this site saying toffoli wont fetch a 1st. savard fetched a 1st lmao. gms love big d-men
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 17
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nah. he'll fetch a 1st. i had people on this site saying toffoli wont fetch a 1st. savard fetched a 1st lmao. gms love big d-men


I guess so. I guess as long as other teams show interest it will force a team to give up a 1st
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 21
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You deserve a slap on the face for this idiotic petry trade, and as for the rangers trade have you EVER seen such a trade happen mid season ?! Swapping in half a lineup ?! stop it, get some help
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 23
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You deserve a slap on the face for this idiotic petry trade, and as for the rangers trade have you EVER seen such a trade happen mid season ?! Swapping in half a lineup ?! stop it, get some help


Why? That Petry trade is fair value. Biggest asset in the deal is the fact that Montreal is getting out of the rest of Petry’s contract.

Doubt Radulov goes back to Montreal, but value is closer than 90% of the other Petry to Dallas deals on this site.
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20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 25
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Why? That Petry trade is fair value. Biggest asset in the deal is the fact that Montreal is getting out of the rest of Petry’s contract.

Doubt Radulov goes back to Montreal, but value is closer than 90% of the other Petry to Dallas deals on this site.


That being said, if I’m Dallas I’d rather just keep the cap space from losing Radulov’s contract this offseason.

IF the Stars seriously want Petry (sounds like they’ve kicked the tires), this is good value though.
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 26
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Why? That Petry trade is fair value. Biggest asset in the deal is the fact that Montreal is getting out of the rest of Petry’s contract.

Doubt Radulov goes back to Montreal, but value is closer than 90% of the other Petry to Dallas deals on this site.


Petry isn't a cap dump that's BS from frausted fans, he isn't getting traded for a panic move he has ton of value and he'll cost a top prospect and a pick to start with
20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 32
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Petry isn't a cap dump that's BS from frausted fans, he isn't getting traded for a panic move he has ton of value and he'll cost a top prospect and a pick to start with


He’s closer to being a cap dump than he is to costing a top prospect & a pick. He’s already in his mid-30’s, signed to a $6M+ contract through his age 37 season, and is on pace for the worst season of his career.

If you’re trading him last year, then yeah he’s got good value attached to him, but teams aren’t trading for last year’s production. They’re trading for the player he is today & the player he will be through the end of his contract. Bottom line is that he’s hit that age where it’s expected that players fall off. If he’s 28, sure there’s a better shot at a bounce back, but at 34 no team is paying a premium for a guy that looks like he could have hit the downhill of his career.

Would you trade a high end prospect & a pick for Ryan Suter?
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20 févr. 2022 à 13 h 42
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And Chiarot's price goes up again!

How? Nobody knows/is willing to say.


"Sportsnet saying Blues really interested in Chiarot."

I double Hot Dog Phil dare you to post the source for this claim.
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That being said, if I’m Dallas I’d rather just keep the cap space from losing Radulov’s contract this offseason.

IF the Stars seriously want Petry (sounds like they’ve kicked the tires), this is good value though.


i mean i agree here. but at the same time they dont wanna pay 8x8 or whatever klingberg wants. petry allows them to stay in contention for another couple of years.
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I guess so. I guess as long as other teams show interest it will force a team to give up a 1st


yeha they are. CJ on his podcast, EF on his podcast, Seravelli on his podcat, and marek on his radio show have confirmed that multiple teams have shown interest in chiarot, and leading among them is the blues.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 8
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And Chiarot's price goes up again!

How? Nobody knows/is willing to say.


"Sportsnet saying Blues really interested in Chiarot."

I double Hot Dog Phil dare you to post the source for this claim.


his price was always a 1st and a good prospect bud. I wonder what you'll say when armstrong pays up a 1st for him?
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 25
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not a cap dump. this is a rutherford type move. your PK sucks. he def helps. your coach will love him too.


He’s making 3.4M for 3 more years after this. Has 21 points in 78 games the last 2 seasons. Would be a 4th liner in Vancouver. He is a cap dump
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 28
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He’s making 3.4M for 3 more years after this. Has 21 points in 78 games the last 2 seasons. Would be a 4th liner in Vancouver. He is a cap dump


hes not suppsoed to be a 60 goal scorer bud. but hey, your opinion.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 30
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hes not suppsoed to be a 60 goal scorer bud. but hey, your opinion.


Canucks just got rid of all their overpaid bottom 6 players that couldn’t score. Don’t need another one for 3+ seasons
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 59
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his price was always a 1st and a good prospect bud. I wonder what you'll say when armstrong pays up a 1st for him?


Show me ONE source that reports this. Actually, show me ONE source that even implies this talking nonsense. I dare you.
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 22
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Show me ONE source that reports this. Actually, show me ONE source that even implies this talking nonsense. I dare you.


https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/fraser-ben-chiarot-will-be-command-a-huge-return-in-a-trade-1.1760990

https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-ben-chiarot-montreal-canadiens-calgary-flames-1.1760200

furthermore, listen to EF's 32 thoughts and TJMS radio. I mean dude. come on. dont be that naive
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 48
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https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/fraser-ben-chiarot-will-be-command-a-huge-return-in-a-trade-1.1760990

https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-ben-chiarot-montreal-canadiens-calgary-flames-1.1760200

furthermore, listen to EF's 32 thoughts and TJMS radio. I mean dude. come on. dont be that naive


I do catch Friedman's drivel. He has said nothing of the sort. Just last night he said, and I quote: "I think that St. Louis is one of the teams playing tonight that is interested in Chiarot."

That's it. A bunch of wiggle word nothing.

Now to your links. In the first link, the guy explicitly says that nobody should trade a 1st and a prospect for Chiarot, and that he does not think for one second that anybody will. He goes on to explain in detail all of Chiarot's flaws, completely demolishing every narrative many Habs fans are trying to spin here daily about Chiarot. He then states clearly that Chiarot would be a 3rd pairing D-man on the Blues. Honestly, I have to ask - did you even listen to that audio?

The second link has exactly nothing that reports or even implies that the Blues have advanced interest in Chiarot.

So.. Nothing that reports the Blues are "really interested" in Chiarot. Nothing that says his price was ever a 1st and a good prospect. Nothing + nothing = nothing. Feel free to try again if you absolutely must. But geez, at least make it a challenge worthy of a grade schooler if you do. It's like you;re not even trying.
20 févr. 2022 à 18 h 13
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of course not. but thats what he'll fetch in this market


Any idiot GM giving up a 1st for Chiarot should be immediately fired, He's a bottom pairing defenseman and he's not better then Leddy who will only return a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
20 févr. 2022 à 19 h 22
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Any idiot GM giving up a 1st for Chiarot should be immediately fired, He's a bottom pairing defenseman and he's not better then Leddy who will only return a 2nd or 3rd round pick.


savard was acquired for a 1st. does that make briesbois an idiot? and chiarot is way better than savard. last years playoff run proved it
16 mars 2022 à 20 h 37
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Any idiot GM giving up a 1st for Chiarot should be immediately fired, He's a bottom pairing defenseman and he's not better then Leddy who will only return a 2nd or 3rd round pick.


hows it going buddy? you better start calling for the firing of bill zito
 
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