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2nd line Wingers Or 3C

Créé par: DDUB
Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2022
Publié: 16 févr. 2022
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Before TeddyB got hurt, the plan was to have Jeff Carter on Malkins wing. Very limited sample, but it looked great while it lasted. Pens will not find a better Wing for Malkin at the TDL.
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16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 16
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Where did you read the plan was to have Carter on Geno's wing? Because that's just not true.

With how good ERod has been at C, they can still do that now and they're not.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 21
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Where did you read the plan was to have Carter on Geno's wing? Because that's just not true.


I don’t think there was an actual plan but in genos first few games they looked good together. Erod can play center where in my opinion he is MUCH better. Then u can put heinen/kapanen with him and zuck/geno/carter
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 24
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Where did I read? I watched. When Geno made his initial return, he was practicing with Carter on his Wing. Then they played the first few games like that ( 2 I think) before Blueg got hurt.

How about you do some research before you call someone out. Because enough look ****ing stupid right now as a Pens fan.


Practicing clearly meant nothing because they never did it. This team had Blueger in the lineup with everyone and Carter was still playing 3C, so clearly you don't watch the games.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 25
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I don’t think there was an actual plan but in genos first few games they looked good together. Erod can play center where in my opinion he is MUCH better. Then u can put heinen/kapanen with him and zuck/geno/carter


I'm not against trying it, but it was never the plan. They had ample opportunities to do it and they haven't.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 26
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https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_linecombo.php?select=F&forward=PIT%3A1242%3AEVGENI%3AMALKIN&games=2021-2022%3AR%3A99&period=ALL&situation=ALL


Stats don’t lie buddy.

Malkins 3rd most common line this year (30mins of ice time) was Carter and Kapanen. After Blueg got hurt it switched to the other top lines.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 28
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I'm not against trying it, but it was never the plan. They had ample opportunities to do it and they haven't.


The best part is that you don’t know they have tried it!! And it was Malkins most common linemate because the injury tears of joy

You can’t just look up the depth chart released on pregame notes.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 29
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In malkins first couple of games he played with Carter and Kapanen and the line looked sick so i'm all for it
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16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 30
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The best part is that you don’t know they have tried it!! And it was Malkins most common linemate because the injury tears of joy

You can’t just look up the depth chart released on pregame notes.


All I'm saying is it wasn't the plan. I never said I was against it, but creating trades based on something you said was planned, when it wasn't, is just a poor rationale.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 32
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
All I'm saying is it wasn't the plan. I never said I was against it, but creating trades based on something you said was planned, when it wasn't, is just a poor rationale.


Stop dude just stop. It was clearly the plan. It is actual fact that they were the most common line mates during that small stretch. It’s also fact that they practiced line rushes together before Genos return.

Therefore……. It was planned mate.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 38
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I'm not against trying it, but it was never the plan. They had ample opportunities to do it and they haven't.


True true. The only slight on Sullivan is that he’s very stingy when it comes to pairings. The first and last lines are fine when healthy but the middle six definitely needs a shakeup. And I don’t see a trade coming at the TDL for a winger
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 48
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The team doesn't have many weaknesses right now, but the 2nd line's ability to score is one and getting production out of Erod is another. Both could be solved simply by moving Carter to Malkin's line and letting Erod anchor the 3rd line. Once Teddy comes back the current 4th line ceases to exist and McGinn goes back to Teddy and a healthy Zucker goes to the Erod line. No trades necessary.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: DDUB
Stop dude just stop. It was clearly the plan. It is actual fact that they were the most common line mates during that small stretch. It’s also fact that they practiced line rushes together before Genos return.

Therefore……. It was planned mate.


I was not clearly the plan. Coaches try things out all the time in practices. You're just wrong.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 52
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I was not clearly the plan. Coaches try things out all the time in practices. You're just wrong.


Bro, is this all you do? Come in and be a filibuster?
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 53
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Bro, is this all you do? Come in and be a filibuster?


So how about this. The coaches tried some things out. Clearly found they liked Carter and Malkin, then made it the plan after it initially wasn’t the plan.

Better for you?
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 56
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Bro, is this all you do? Come in and be a filibuster?


I disagreed with you and you called me stupid. Is that all you can do? I gave pretty fair rationale on why you're wrong, but you just jump to insulting me. That's usually a sign someone knows they're wrong and can't defend it.
16 févr. 2022 à 10 h 58
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So how about this. The coaches tried some things out. Clearly found they liked Carter and Malkin, then made it the plan after it initially wasn’t the plan.

Better for you?


I mean, they tried lots of things out. That's what they do in practices. DOC practiced in the top-six a little, too.

You keep missing the point of this whole thing. I never even disagreed that it wouldn't be a good idea, but to say it was "the plan" is just wrong and making trades based on something that was never the plan is even more wrong.
16 févr. 2022 à 11 h 2
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16 févr. 2022 à 11 h 29
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I don’t think there was an actual plan but in genos first few games they looked good together. Erod can play center where in my opinion he is MUCH better. Then u can put heinen/kapanen with him and zuck/geno/carter


ERod sucks, and he's not a center.

Carter is at 3C because they need someone other than Crosby who can win a faceoff.
16 févr. 2022 à 11 h 59
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ERod sucks, and he's not a center.

Carter is at 3C because they need someone other than Crosby who can win a faceoff.


Tbf erod did all his damage before malkin came back and he was playing 2C/3C. Once he came back he moved to the wing and he’s had like 5 points since then. I’m not saying erod will turn into a superstar when he moves to the centre spot but he’s MUCH more effective when he has the puck and can create. Look at his numbers before the west coast trip and after then you’ll see
16 févr. 2022 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I disagreed with you and you called me stupid. Is that all you can do? I gave pretty fair rationale on why you're wrong, but you just jump to insulting me. That's usually a sign someone knows they're wrong and can't defend it.


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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I disagreed with you and you called me stupid. Is that all you can do? I gave pretty fair rationale on why you're wrong, but you just jump to insulting me. That's usually a sign someone knows they're wrong and can't defend it.


Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I disagreed with you and you called me stupid. Is that all you can do? I gave pretty fair rationale on why you're wrong, but you just jump to insulting me. That's usually a sign someone knows they're wrong and can't defend it.


Dude, all I did was prove I was right and you were not. You didn’t even know they played on a line together. Get over it. I just feel bad for you.
16 févr. 2022 à 12 h 43
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Dude, all I did was prove I was right and you were not. You didn’t even know they played on a line together. Get over it. I just feel bad for you.


LOL Nice try. Thanks you! Come again.
16 févr. 2022 à 17 h 48
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16 févr. 2022 à 20 h 1
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Hey quick question, when I originally made this, I meant to add 50% retained.

Do you think a 2nd would still work?
16 févr. 2022 à 23 h 36
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Tbf erod did all his damage before malkin came back and he was playing 2C/3C. Once he came back he moved to the wing and he’s had like 5 points since then. I’m not saying erod will turn into a superstar when he moves to the centre spot but he’s MUCH more effective when he has the puck and can create. Look at his numbers before the west coast trip and after then you’ll see


he's 28 on a 1 year 1M contract for a reason bro.
You can build up the fluke play all you want. But here are two things that are true. A. he's not that good. B. I wouldn't want to be roped into a contract with him worth anymore than what he's getting now.
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16 févr. 2022 à 23 h 42
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he's 28 on a 1 year 1M contract for a reason bro.
You can build up the fluke play all you want. But here are two things that are true. A. he's not that good. B. I wouldn't want to be roped into a contract with him worth anymore than what he's getting now.


honestly all the pens need out of him is 3rd line production. they don't need him to be crosby out there. and i personally think he's most effective as a center. fluke or not heat least he has produced better than what kapanen is giving (who has less goals then DOM SIMON in their last 9 games)
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