Defence isn't any better here. You went side ways here, maybve worse.

You went grass is greener on the other side of the fence trade.

I don't get it. Why are so many Leaf fans suddenly obsessed with the prospect of the team reacquirring a very slow 6-7 defender? Luke Schenn is not an upgrade to anything the Leafs currently have on their back end.

yea if the leafs get scheen it is to make him number 4 right D behind Brodie, Holl, Lily. (dermott is # 4 left d in this sitution) - Cheap depth aquision. There is some validity to it.

Luke Schenn is not a top-4 defenseman.

The Schenn trade doesn't seem necessary by either team
Like the Arizona just to get rid of Ritchie cap hit next season.
Hakanpaa seems like a sideways trade for both teams
Foolish to give away Holl.
So as said above, really a lot of moving for no improvement by the Leafs.

I said he would be a 4th right dman. Not top 4. Meaning he would be 4th pairing dman not 2nd pairing.