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TDL moves with next season in mind

Créé par: BigTramFan
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 15 déc. 2021
Publié: 26 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Assuming VAN are out of playoff contention at the TDL. These moves are to set up the roster for next season and the future
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
3.
ARI
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Halák, Jaroslav
Détails additionnels:
Assuming Halak is willing to waive his NMC
Rachats de contrats
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 718 992 $648 780 $1 450 000 $9 781 008 $

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UFA - 5
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Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 533 333 $1 533 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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26 janv. 2022 à 19 h 56
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JFC! Canucks aren't looking to move Dickinson for the last time, and it's already been made clear they aren't trading high draft picks. Such an overpay for Lawson Crouse

I don't mind the rest of the trades though
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26 janv. 2022 à 20 h 0
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Hold onto schenn for the Rangers and just throw in an extra bag of pucks or something. About the same value
26 janv. 2022 à 20 h 3
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We do not need Lawson Crouse, especially for a first round pick. He has a career high of 25 points…
26 janv. 2022 à 20 h 16
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Drury says keep dreaming Canuck fans.
26 janv. 2022 à 20 h 20
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
JFC! Canucks aren't looking to move Dickinson for the last time, and it's already been made clear they aren't trading high draft picks. Such an overpay for Lawson Crouse

I don't mind the rest of the trades though


Yeah we should move Dickinson
26 janv. 2022 à 20 h 35
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Yeah we should move Dickinson


No, just because he had one off night doesn't mean immediately throw him out the door. Can't be this reactionary to succeed in this type of business
26 janv. 2022 à 20 h 52
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Quoting: BigTramFan
Yeah we should move Dickinson


Quoting: Knuckl3s
No, just because he had one off night doesn't mean immediately throw him out the door. Can't be this reactionary to succeed in this type of business


We absolutely should be looking to move Dickinson and not because he had one off night but because he's too expensive to not be playing C, he doesn't fit with the Canucks new staff wanting a fast team, he's good defensive forward but an absolute black hole offensively.

We shouldn't pay to move him but if we can't find a trade partner I wouldn't be shocked to see him be bought out this summer to create cap room. His buyout is very team friendly.
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26 janv. 2022 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: BigTramFan
Yeah we should move Dickinson


I agree, just not in that trade. Giving up a 1st for Crouse seems like a wasted 1st to me.
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26 janv. 2022 à 23 h 59
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Quoting: audiodave
I agree, just not in that trade. Giving up a 1st for Crouse seems like a wasted 1st to me.


Its a good point. I didn't realise Dickinson's contract was so buy out friendly, as per mediumyeet's comment. I would still be interested in securing Crouse but without Dickinson in the deal he would cost a lot less than a 1st. Cheers.
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27 janv. 2022 à 0 h 3
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Quoting: BigTramFan
Its a good point. I didn't realise Dickinson's contract was so buy out friendly, as per mediumyeet's comment. I would still be interested in securing Crouse but without Dickinson in the deal he would cost a lot less than a 1st. Cheers.


Maybe Dallas would take him back?
27 janv. 2022 à 0 h 6
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We do not need Lawson Crouse, especially for a first round pick. He has a career high of 25 points…


He's only 24 years old and on pace for 40 pts this season, on a tire fire of a team. 6'4", 220 lb, fights, plays special teams. I think he's exactly the kind of player we need. Thinking now be better to buy out Dickinson and get Crouse for much less than a late 1st.
27 janv. 2022 à 0 h 7
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Maybe Dallas would take him back?


Maybe. But the problem is he's not worth half his contract and he's signed for two more seasons. I can't see anyone trading for him without a sweetener. The buy out option is a pretty good one.
27 janv. 2022 à 0 h 22
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
JFC! Canucks aren't looking to move Dickinson for the last time, and it's already been made clear they aren't trading high draft picks. Such an overpay for Lawson Crouse

I don't mind the rest of the trades though


Appreciate the feedback.

Where did you hear Canucks say they are not trading high draft picks? I believe the quote was, Rutherford: "I'll say the obvious, we need to get better in certain places to be a consistent playoff team and contender. Because of that, if we make trades it will be for draft picks and younger players so we can bring this team together."

IMO Crouse is a young player that falls into the category of what we need to be a playoff team.
27 janv. 2022 à 1 h 38
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Quoting: BigTramFan
Appreciate the feedback.

Where did you hear Canucks say they are not trading high draft picks? I believe the quote was, Rutherford: "I'll say the obvious, we need to get better in certain places to be a consistent playoff team and contender. Because of that, if we make trades it will be for draft picks and younger players so we can bring this team together."

IMO Crouse is a young player that falls into the category of what we need to be a playoff team.


Fair, I just don't know that Vancouver has the assets that Arizona wants for Crouse
27 janv. 2022 à 1 h 48
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
We absolutely should be looking to move Dickinson and not because he had one off night but because he's too expensive to not be playing C, he doesn't fit with the Canucks new staff wanting a fast team, he's good defensive forward but an absolute black hole offensively.

We shouldn't pay to move him but if we can't find a trade partner I wouldn't be shocked to see him be bought out this summer to create cap room. His buyout is very team friendly.


We can't keep buying out players, and who are you to judge whether or not Dickinson is too expensive to not be playing center. That's a very short-sighted take. Dickinson will easily fetch a 3rd rounder just like what we paid to get him

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Maybe. But the problem is he's not worth half his contract and he's signed for two more seasons. I can't see anyone trading for him without a sweetener. The buy out option is a pretty good one.


No, he's worth at least 3/4 of his contract right now and he deserves a chance to bounce back next season, Vancouver doesn't have to pay to get rid of him or any of their players except Ekman-Larsson who has a NMC
27 janv. 2022 à 2 h 20
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We can't keep buying out players, and who are you to judge whether or not Dickinson is too expensive to not be playing center. That's a very short-sighted take. Dickinson will easily fetch a 3rd rounder just like what we paid to get him



No, he's worth at least 3/4 of his contract right now and he deserves a chance to bounce back next season, Vancouver doesn't have to pay to get rid of him or any of their players except Ekman-Larsson who has a NMC


I'm a reasonable fan that realizes 2.65 million is too much to pay someone to be a 4th line winger that provides 0 offense. Yes we have to stop buying players out but we also need to clean up the mess that Benning left. If Allvin can find a trade partner for Dickinson he will do it if not buyout is a good option. If Dickinson was on an expiring deal he would be easy to move but 2 more years for an overpaid bottom 6 guy in a flat cap world is tough to move.
27 janv. 2022 à 3 h 35
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
I'm a reasonable fan that realizes 2.65 million is too much to pay someone to be a 4th line winger that provides 0 offense. Yes we have to stop buying players out but we also need to clean up the mess that Benning left. If Allvin can find a trade partner for Dickinson he will do it if not buyout is a good option. If Dickinson was on an expiring deal he would be easy to move but 2 more years for an overpaid bottom 6 guy in a flat cap world is tough to move.


Dickinson isn't a 4th line player, that's were you are wrong. Just because he doesn't provide very much offense doesn't mean he isn't still mobile and dynamic enough to be a top 9 forward
27 janv. 2022 à 6 h 42
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Drury says keep dreaming Canuck fans.


completely out of touch with your own team
27 janv. 2022 à 8 h 17
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Kempny trade is a joke. Why would Washington trade for more cap for longer, not to mention that Hamonic, like Kempny, won't have a place in Washington?
27 janv. 2022 à 11 h 28
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completely out of touch with your own team


Right. I don't know enough about the Rangers to know Schneider isn't available as a trade piece.
27 janv. 2022 à 12 h 26
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Right. I don't know enough about the Rangers to know Schneider isn't available as a trade piece.


you are, cause he will be traded by the deadline, and Ill come back to this post to make sure you get the old "I told you so"
27 janv. 2022 à 14 h 6
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you are, cause he will be traded by the deadline, and Ill come back to this post to make sure you get the old "I told you so"


You do that. And when he is still a Ranger after the deadline, what will you do? Admit you were wrong?
28 janv. 2022 à 22 h 59
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Kempny trade is a joke. Why would Washington trade for more cap for longer, not to mention that Hamonic, like Kempny, won't have a place in Washington?


My thinking was that this season for just an extra $0.5m WSH get a decent upgrade on Kempny. Then next season WSH will be unlikely to resign Schultz, who is now more a 3rd pairing Dman anyway, which will clear $4m of cap. Next season they will have a gap and Hamonic is a very good defensive 2nd pairing Dman with 1 year left on just a $3m contract, so he's very cost effective for what he brings. WSH right side becomes Carlson, Hamonic, Jensen.
29 janv. 2022 à 15 h 4
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My thinking was that this season for just an extra $0.5m WSH get a decent upgrade on Kempny. Then next season WSH will be unlikely to resign Schultz, who is now more a 3rd pairing Dman anyway, which will clear $4m of cap. Next season they will have a gap and Hamonic is a very good defensive 2nd pairing Dman with 1 year left on just a $3m contract, so he's very cost effective for what he brings. WSH right side becomes Carlson, Hamonic, Jensen.


That would not help in this or next year. Kempny will be in the AHL very soon if he isn’t already, and there isn’t a hole for Hamonic. As for next year, with Schultz likely walking, this allows for TVR to go back to his natural right side, and will allow Washinton to start either Johansen or Alexeyev. Hamonic’s contract would likely mean one of Samsonov, Vanecek, or Sprong would have to leave. Hamonic is not a help for the caps in any major way, just a hinderance.
 
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