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Trading Draisaitl

Créé par: desertdog111
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 3 janv. 2022
Publié: 3 janv. 2022
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A couple disclaimers before getting angry in the comment section:

-I know next to nothing about the Oilers.
-I know relatively little about the prospects going from Ottawa to Edmonton other than what I read on this website
-This is mostly for fun and for general feedback, not interested in getting in arguments over why it will never happen (because it almost certainly won’t)

Let’s say Edmonton misses the playoffs or is out in the first round again. Something would need to change, and management/ownership gets tired of trying to smash the same square peg into the proverbial circular hole with the current roster construction. Moving on from Draisaitl would create an immense amount of cap space and they get a ransom of young players/draft capital in return, so they can build a more balanced and sustainable roster. Ottawa is one of the only teams who have the cap space and (theoretically) the prospects to at least start a conversation. Getting a young replacement 2C with a high ceiling, one of the better D prospects in the league, and a top 5 draft pick is at least stomachable for trading one of the best players in the league. The remaining cap space allows them to get a real goaltender and fill out the bottom 6 better than I can.

From Ottawa’s perspective this would be an all-in move I doubt they would make because they have yet to have much success, but with a deep prospect pool of players knocking on the door I can at least envision a scenario in which they entertain the idea. Plus they can sell the crap out of the “German connection” with Drai and Stützle.

Once again, not posting this to start arguments I mostly just wanted to see it on paper. If you have productive feedback I welcome it.
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    3 janv. 2022 à 1 h 32
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    Interesting proposal. As an Edmonton fan, my first thoughts are it’s not enough from Ottawa. We’d need an elite RHD coming back, at the very least, instead of a first round pick. I’d also insist on Connor Brown - he’s a solid middle six winger with a history with McDavid.
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    3 janv. 2022 à 8 h 6
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    Draisaitl's signing bonus money for 2022-2023 is 7 million.

    Which team should pay it, in your opinion?
    3 janv. 2022 à 10 h 2
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    Quoting: Oilfan1717
    Interesting proposal. As an Edmonton fan, my first thoughts are it’s not enough from Ottawa. We’d need an elite RHD coming back, at the very least, instead of a first round pick. I’d also insist on Connor Brown - he’s a solid middle six winger with a history with McDavid.


    I “drafted” Nemic in this situation who’s supposed to be the best RHD in the draft, so that could cover the elite RHD part depending on how the oilers think of him as a prospect. I suppose instead of the 2023 1st you could talk Ottawa into giving away one of their RHD prospects but obviously they don’t have any current elite players to give at that position.

    I don’t think you’ll ever be able to get a “fair” return for Drai, which is why deals like this are never made. But the team will become more balanced and you’ll be able to add elsewhere which is why I thought it was interesting to look at.
    3 janv. 2022 à 10 h 4
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Draisaitl's signing bonus money for 2022-2023 is 7 million.

    Which team should pay it, in your opinion?


    I’d say Ottawa. If they’re going to get a top 3 nhl player they should pay for him. Would depend on the timing of the trade though. I think there are a million other obstacles in the way that come to the forefront before that becomes a problem though
    3 janv. 2022 à 10 h 52
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    dont see many scenarios where drai gets traded.
    3 janv. 2022 à 10 h 55
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    Quoting: desertdog111
    I’d say Ottawa. If they’re going to get a top 3 nhl player they should pay for him. Would depend on the timing of the trade though. I think there are a million other obstacles in the way that come to the forefront before that becomes a problem though


    Then Ottawa declines.

    Sorry.
    3 janv. 2022 à 13 h 36
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    Going to copy/paste what I wrote in another recent ACGM regarding a Draisaitl to Ottawa trade :


    Ottawa can't afford to do that simply because Draisaitl only has 3 more years on his contract. Unless there is a change in ownership, high profile players won't want to stay in Ottawa with current ownership/management

    Shane Pinto is hard to give up on but Draisaitl is among the players I'd be ready to sacrifice Pinto for.

    If the pick really was the first overall then it has gigantic value as well. Brannstrom, White and 2nd add value but the main pieces are that 1st and Pinto. Despite what people will say, I wouldn't add another elite piece on top of that. At the beginning of his contract sure, but not when it's more than 50% done.

    That being said, why would Edmonton do that? They want to compete now, not when that first OA, Pinto, Brannstrom all peak...

    If they trade Draisaitl, it has to be for a top pairing D-man and a good top-6 forward but young enough to compete for years, let's say Miro Heiskanen and Roope Hintz for example




    Change Pinto to Norris

    Yes that 2022 first round pick could possibly be 1st overall at the moment, you just don't trade that

    In the other thread, on top of Pinto and that first, it was Brannstrom, White and 2nd

    Here, it's Jake Sanderson, Egor Sokolov, another first and a 2nd

    A BIG RESOUNDING NO.

    As good as Draisaitl is, I would never give up :

    - a 22 y/o 2-way center who looks like a 35 goals scorer
    - a 19 y/o future defensive stalwart in the Jaccob Slavin mold
    - a probable top-5 pick in a really great draft
    - another first next year when we have no idea if Ottawa will be out of the basement or not
    - Egor Sokolov who is a fan favorite prospect and has 40 pts in 55 AHL games
    - a 2nd round pick like if the 5 pieces above weren't enough
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    3 janv. 2022 à 13 h 49
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    Modifié 4 janv. 2022 à 8 h 39
    Quoting: Oilfan1717
    Interesting proposal. As an Edmonton fan, my first thoughts are it’s not enough from Ottawa. We’d need an elite RHD coming back, at the very least, instead of a first round pick. I’d also insist on Connor Brown - he’s a solid middle six winger with a history with McDavid.


    The expectations are crazy. We're not talking about a late first here, we're talking about a prospect of Wright/Savoie/Kemell/Lambert/Etc caliber

    And I don't know if you ever heard about Josh Norris and Jake Sanderson? 2 studs on their ELC (well Jake hasn't even started yet)

    Plus another first (which could be good again) a good prospect and a 2nd

    If Dorion does anything like that, he'd better go hiding

    Anyway, I think this will get more clear by the draft. We'll know where Ottawa drafts, people will have had a glimpse of what Sanderson will become and will have more understanding about Josh Norris too. That is IF Covid doesn't **** everything up again.
     
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