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Selling the team again TDL

Créé par: Korax
Équipe: 2021-22 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 13 déc. 2021
Publié: 13 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
2.
ARI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
anyone
3.
ARI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
anyone
4.
ARI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
anyone
5.
CAR
  1. Boyd, Travis
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
We are trying to help CAR money wise here, and we originally wanted to draft KK
6.
ARI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Roussel, Antoine
Détails additionnels:
anyone
7.
NYR
  1. Kessel, Phil (3 400 000 $ retained)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $67 678 652 $196 951 $3 582 500 $13 821 348 $
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7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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1 533 333 $1 533 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 100 035 $6 100 035 $
C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 150 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
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825 000 $825 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 8
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Carolina payed a 1st to get KK and you really think they are just gonna give him away for nothing?
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13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Carolina payed a 1st to get KK and you really think they are just gonna give him away for nothing?


Boyd plays better than KK and this trade will allow CAR to make TDL trades with the money saved. It okay to accept the fact that you made an error with this offer sheet
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 18
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An error in the offer sheet? A 21 year old kid who’s played 27 games in Carolina. Why are we talking in defined terms here?

“ We are trying to help CAR money wise here, and we originally wanted to draft KK”

Why does this help Carolina with money? BTW, when you actually analyze the move, the extra cap dollars that were added by the 6.1M actually allowed the Canes to fully utilize Jake Gardiner’s LTIR move and savings. This is something very important people forget here. If they needed help with the money, they wouldn’t have made this move. We pay our bills.

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Boyd plays better than KK and this trade will allow CAR to make TDL trades with the money saved. It okay to accept the fact that you made an error with this offer sheet
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 24
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Quoting: Korax
Boyd plays better than KK and this trade will allow CAR to make TDL trades with the money saved. It okay to accept the fact that you made an error with this offer sheet


Gotta love how Habs fans hyped the crap out of KK until he left...now you guys are just cruisin' around trolling tears of joy
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: Korax
Boyd plays better than KK and this trade will allow CAR to make TDL trades with the money saved. It okay to accept the fact that you made an error with this offer sheet


KK is better than Boyd at every aspect of the game other than even strength offense. aswell as Carolina will resign KK for about 3 mil for next couple years. Aswell as you can’t say Carolina messed up the offersheet only a 3rd of the way into a season where KK has been great
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 34
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Quoting: Caniac555
An error in the offer sheet? A 21 year old kid who’s played 27 games in Carolina. Why are we talking in defined terms here?

“ We are trying to help CAR money wise here, and we originally wanted to draft KK”

Why does this help Carolina with money? BTW, when you actually analyze the move, the extra cap dollars that were added by the 6.1M actually allowed the Canes to fully utilize Jake Gardiner’s LTIR move and savings. This is something very important people forget here. If they needed help with the money, they wouldn’t have made this move. We pay our bills.


OP is out there trying to sell magic beans tears of joy

I mean, Necas playing well below his pts pace from last year...can I interest you in Andrew Ladd for him straight up? Ladd has had a bounce back season, already having 4 times as many points as he had last year! Would also be willing to add Johan Larsson, who is on pace for a career year!
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: Korax
Boyd plays better than KK and this trade will allow CAR to make TDL trades with the money saved. It okay to accept the fact that you made an error with this offer sheet


Sounds like a sad Habs fan to me
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 40
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Or maybe someone looking to peddle the ‘Quebec City’ rumors again…

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Sounds like a sad Habs fan to me
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 41
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If we are going to do weird interpretations of the KK situation:

how about the Canes are able to keep Trocheck for a reasonable amount so, the Canes trade KK and Gardiner to Arizona for Chychrun? You get your 2C. We get a struggling but potentially great partner for Pesce.
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: ecupirate07
If we are going to do weird interpretations of the KK situation:

how about the Canes are able to keep Trocheck for a reasonable amount so, the Canes trade KK and Gardiner to Arizona for Chychrun? You get your 2C. We get a struggling but potentially great partner for Pesce.


Wow that’s an interesting thought. I don’t think Chychrun is the return (not even close), but I like the thought of keeping Trocheck and sending off KK with Gardner for something back
13 déc. 2021 à 12 h 47
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Quoting: QualityTrades1
Wow that’s an interesting thought. I don’t think Chychrun is the return (not even close), but I like the thought of keeping Trocheck and sending off KK with Gardner for something back


It was intentionally lacking but so is the idea of saving us from Kotkaniemi.
13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 0
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Quoting: ecupirate07
It was intentionally lacking but so is the idea of saving us from Kotkaniemi.


That’s fair but I think that idea holds merit. What if the Hurricanes could trade KK and Gardner to a tanking team for a valuable asset. Say like Oloffson (maybe Carolina adds a little, but you get the point).
Side note: also fine keeping KK. I think he’ll do well here
13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 40
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That’s fair but I think that idea holds merit. What if the Hurricanes could trade KK and Gardner to a tanking team for a valuable asset. Say like Oloffson (maybe Carolina adds a little, but you get the point).
Side note: also fine keeping KK. I think he’ll do well here


A few issues with trading JK:
1. I highly doubt we keep Tro. He will be one of the best Cs available on the free market this offseason. Teams like Seattle, Arizona, and Buffalo are in need of a real center and teams like Boston, Rangers (maybe), etc will need a good 2C. Tro, Hertl, and Kadri will be well sought after and I doubt Tro would stay at a discount.
2. Kotkaniemi is being hampered by having to play 4C. If he would have gotten comfortable at LW, his stats would look different a 2LW and averaging 3 minutes more a game. He didnt look out of place last night when we had 17 minutes. That was also the first night he had scoring wingers too.
3. JK needs one long offseason to really break his skating down that he hasnt had yet. His first off-season he had a lower body injury that prevented him from working on it and then the NHL has had 2 COVID shortened off-seasons. I would hate to "give up" on him when next season could really start his breaking out.
13 déc. 2021 à 18 h 7
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I love when people say that the Canes messed up the offer sheet. The Canes the ride to trade for KK before going the offer sheet route, and the trade price the Canes were offering? A first round pick, a third round pick, and MTL’s choice of any one prospect that is not named Seth Jarvis. The Canes got KK for cheaper than they were willing to trade for him. So no, they didn’t mess up the offer sheet, they won it. The only bad thing about KK game so far this season, has been his offense, and it isn’t like he is not trying.

I look at KK’s transition period like I did with Markstrom. Markstrom was bad last season, but he has played incredibly this season. KK is very likely going to break out next year, in my opinion.

In terms of Trocheck, I am not quite sure if he is going to return or not. I do believe that KK will end up as the 2C next year, with Trocheck likely on another team. I would not be surprised if the Canes went and made a big splash at LW this off-season, or even at this TDL to push for the cup.
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