Quoting: ding
Quoting: F50marco
Yeah easier said then done.....
Davidson wouldn't be added because you really want him...its to help out our cap since we're not giving you anything of big cap going back. Not many teams can take on a 5m+ contract without giving a little back. He can be sent to the minors if anything.
The goal of the trade was to give you something you wanted while not giving you a huge chunk of salary back either. I'm not doing that for nothing. If we're going to add a 1st and or better prospects like Hudon etc, we'll need to give back salary like a Plekanec or an Emelin, etc.
Habs are taking 5 years of 5M+ contract off your hands and in the hockey world that is a big talking point in a trade.
IT would be if that player WAS a cap dump, Schenn isn't that... moot point.
Then why are Philly fans trading him? Is he really going to get the same return as a Duchene? Not even close. So maybe the 1st rounder is necessary from your point of view which is fine but then teams shouldn't have to be taking on all that salary without giving some back. So you want 1st round pick, a solid prospect and something else for a guy that you guys are actively trading because he doesn't fit the bill anymore. Look at the cap space every team has right now for example. Only a few teams can take on a Schenns contract and those teams are either not in the market or purposefully not spending up to the cap because of their internal cap limit.
Everyone thinks " oh we'll just deal with Carolina since they have cap space". Problem is teams that have tons of cap space like them do so at their owners request, not because they are frugal. Judging by how hard it is to make trades in the NHL, I think its becoming obvious that cap space is an equal trading asset almost to the point of player return.
Regarding Schenn, its a cache 22. You want the return to be high and you don't want to take on salary. So the demands are high from the start and its Philly fans who are actively trading him. Makes anyone wonder if he's so good then why isn't he playing 18 mins a night on Giroux's left side. Why is he even being mentioned in a trade? Why not simply keep him? Because he's a bargaining chip with value? Yup, so is taking on 5M of salary for the next 5 years while handing out draft picks and good prospects.
Also can everyone please stop using the wording of cap dump for a trade that involves salary going one way and not the other. There's a parenthesis with that reasoning. When a player of value is traded for no major salary coming back, its not a cap dump. Its a trade. It just happens that one team is taking on salary and one isn't. Cap dump is when a player of
no value or
very little value is traded
with an incentive for virtually nothing in return like a 7th round pick or future considerations, etc.
Bryan Bickell to Carolina was a cap dump. Dave Bolland to Arizona was a cap dump. Pavel Datsyuk to Arizona was a cap dump. These teams took on significant cap hits of players with very little value in order to receive an incentive such as high picks and or prospects.