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Twin Towers Pairing in 2023

Créé par: Roysboy72
Date de création initiale: 23 nov. 2021
Publié: 23 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Explications
I feel like that name would be better suited if they played for the Rangers, but it's still a good name so I'm using it. I decided not to go after any big free agents in this one (at the expense of the cap floor) just to see where a few prospects could land in the lineup a couple years from now. Not too many veterans were kept, just Gagner and Leddy. I have a feeling Gagner could stay with the Wings until retirement, it just seems like such a good fit for both the player and the team. Leddy stays as a LHD to transition the prospects through, he's a good veteran that should be able to play wherever we need him, and with a decent cap hit he's easily moveable if he loses his usefulness near the end of the contract. As for the prospects I chose to come up, Edvinsson and Johansson are the obvious answers for the top 4, Berggren and Veleno should be starting the transition into their primes (as long as Berggren comes in next season), and Niederbach feels like the perfect player to center Fabbri and Zadina if we decide to let Suter go. The fourth line is filled in with a finite but feisty Finn and a substantially sizable Swede, centered by Jordan Staal lite (even though Ras is bigger). I also decided that this should be the year Cossa gets his first games in the NHL, and McIsaac gets the 7D role so that he gets some chances to cement a spot before it's too late. Other candidates for a LHD spot include Wallinder, Sebrango, and Viro. I would personally be very excited to see the roster get filled up with young guns like this, but I already know most of these guys will marinate in the minors and slowly take away spots from veterans that Stevie signs along the way. It's probably a better system, but I'd love to see our D corps get enhanced like this without having to spend all of that term on free agents that'll just block up the process further down the road. I'm excited for the future, and with another first round pick to spend in the upcoming draft, that future might even include a young center like Lambert or Geekie. The present is meh, but I'm finally starting to see the pieces come together.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Söderblom, Elmer2875 000 $
Tyutyayev, Kirill1850 000 $
Edvinsson, Simon3925 000 $
Kivenmäki, Otto1800 000 $
Wallinder, William2925 000 $
Niederbach, Theodor2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Lindström, Gustav21 200 000 $
Veleno, Joseph22 100 000 $
Zadina, Filip32 425 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell11 000 000 $
McIsaac, Jared2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler56 400 000 $
Larkin, Dylan87 687 500 $
Fabbri, Robby33 166 667 $
Gagner, Sam1800 000 $
Nedeljkovic, Alex34 500 000 $
Leddy, Nick33 125 000 $
Rachats de contrats
  • Justin Abdelkader: 1 055 556 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
DET
DET
WSH
DET
DET
COL
VGK
DET
DET
2023
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
2024
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $53 353 056 $0 $4 282 500 $29 146 944 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
DET
Larkin, Dylan
7 687 500 $
C, AG
UFA
DET
Raymond, Lucas
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
DET
Vrána, Jakub
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
DET
Veleno, Joseph
2 100 000 $
C
RFA
DET
Berggren, Jonatan
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
DET
Fabbri, Robby
3 166 667 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
DET
Niederbach, Theodor
925 000 $
C
RFA
DET
Zadina, Filip
2 425 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
DET
Kivenmäki, Otto
800 000 $
C
RFA
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
1 460 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
DET
Söderblom, Elmer
875 000 $
C, AD
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
DET
Edvinsson, Simon
925 000 $
DG
RFA
DET
Seider, Moritz
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
DET
Nedeljkovic, Alex
4 500 000 $
G
UFA
DET
Johansson, Albert
820 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
DET
Cossa, Sebastian
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
DET
Leddy, Nick
3 125 000 $
DG
UFA
DET
Lindström, Gustav
1 200 000 $
DD
RFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
DET
Stephens, Mitchell
1 000 000 $
C
RFA
DET
McIsaac, Jared
800 000 $
DG
RFA
DET
Gagner, Sam
800 000 $
C, AD
UFA

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23 nov. 2021 à 10 h 53
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Doesn’t it make more sense to separate them and pair a defensive Dman in Edvinsson next to an offensive Dman in Hronek? And then find a Girard type offensive Dman to pair next to Seider?
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23 nov. 2021 à 11 h 6
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Quoting: csick
Doesn’t it make more sense to separate them and pair a defensive Dman in Edvinsson next to an offensive Dman in Hronek? And then find a Girard type offensive Dman to pair next to Seider?

Looking at Edvinsson's tape from the SHL, he would be the perfect complement to Seider. He's an high octane offensive Dman whenever he enters the zone (he goes deep into the zone regularly while Seider rarely ever passes the faceoff circles), and while he's great defensively, his toolkit reaches far beyond that. I can understand wanting to pair Hronek with a defensive guy, and Edvinsson definitely makes sense for that, but an Edvinsson-Seider pairing should wipe the floor with the competition. I'll admit it makes more sense to put Johansson next to Seider and Edvinsson next to Hronek, as they'd mask each other's deficiencies a little better, but I'm not sure how ready Johansson would be for such big minutes at this time.

While it would be nice to trade for an offensive defenseman that's a known asset, I can see Johansson and Wallinder as the answers to that hole, and only one of them needs to reach their potential to be a good partner for Seider. To be honest, while I know how much better that second pairing could be if Edvinsson was on it, I'd really love to see an Edvinsson-Seider pairing that can absolutely dominate both ends of the ice.
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23 nov. 2021 à 11 h 11
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Quoting: Roysboy72
Looking at Edvinsson's tape from the SHL, he would be the perfect complement to Seider. He's an high octane offensive Dman whenever he enters the zone (he goes deep into the zone regularly while Seider rarely ever passes the faceoff circles), and while he's great defensively, his toolkit reaches far beyond that. I can understand wanting to pair Hronek with a defensive guy, and Edvinsson definitely makes sense for that, but an Edvinsson-Seider pairing should wipe the floor with the competition. I'll admit it makes more sense to put Johansson next to Seider and Edvinsson next to Hronek, as they'd mask each other's deficiencies a little better, but I'm not sure how ready Johansson would be for such big minutes at this time.

While it would be nice to trade for an offensive defenseman that's a known asset, I can see Johansson and Wallinder as the answers to that hole, and only one of them needs to reach their potential to be a good partner for Seider. To be honest, while I know how much better that second pairing could be if Edvinsson was on it, I'd really love to see an Edvinsson-Seider pairing that can absolutely dominate both ends of the ice.


On NHL 21 , I used to always draft him and have him become my top pairing LHD. Not often you get a 6’4 LD who’s not a slow skater and can absolutely destroy a guy with a hit lol
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23 nov. 2021 à 11 h 20
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I am also super high on Edvinsson! That pairing will be a nightmare for NHL teams for a lot of years.
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23 nov. 2021 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: csick
On NHL 21 , I used to always draft him and have him become my top pairing LHD. Not often you get a 6’4 LD who’s not a slow skater and can absolutely destroy a guy with a hit lol

True, it's crazy how smooth his skating is for his size. Him and Seider both have that smooth skating ability but Edvinsson is on another level. One part of his game that I find amazing is how elite his passes are. While he sometimes has lapses in his decision making (not as much as before the draft though), I've seen several highlight passes from him that left me awestruck. Making the kind of offensive plays that he does as an 18yo in the SHL is just insane, and his defense is so solid he's getting started in his own zone ~70% of the time. That's a lot of trust from an organization like Frolunda, who usually tend to shelter their young players a bit more than necessary.
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23 nov. 2021 à 14 h 38
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True, it's crazy how smooth his skating is for his size. Him and Seider both have that smooth skating ability but Edvinsson is on another level. One part of his game that I find amazing is how elite his passes are. While he sometimes has lapses in his decision making (not as much as before the draft though), I've seen several highlight passes from him that left me awestruck. Making the kind of offensive plays that he does as an 18yo in the SHL is just insane, and his defense is so solid he's getting started in his own zone ~70% of the time. That's a lot of trust from an organization like Frolunda, who usually tend to shelter their young players a bit more than necessary.


Imagine a couple years from now when we've got Johansson + Seider and Edvinsson + Hronek eating up 44-46 minutes of the game. Heart Eyes
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