They may have to fire Sakic in order for a deal to get done...Maybe Fleury instead of McKeown and no lottery protection on the pick....

Gee, you compare Bean to Karlsson and you still trade him? Duchene only has two years left in his contract, why would the Canes give up some futures for him. And you gotta ask...what has Duchene really done with a out of playoff team like the Avs?,.... they're still an out of playoffs team. Surely the Canes can spend 6m better than Duchene without giving up assets.
As a CapFriendly fan. Why are 75% of the Duchene trades made to the Canes? Can't the other 29 teams share in the Duchene trade?

Ive seen some Duchene trade ideas to MTL, but the problem is MTL fans dont want to let go of either Sergachev or McCarron, making a deal impossible. Same with other teams; either they dont have the young talent to give, or they wont want to give

DavidBooth: IMO, Sakic and some Avs fans have truly overrated the value of Duchene. While I think he would improve as a player on a good team, with the Avs, he play has declined and he doesn't seem to be a difference maker. The clock is ticking on his UFA status.....summer 2019. Avs want to trade Duchene and Landeskog and get better value,? Duchene and Landeskog better play better.

Gotta think that the Avs may end up having to hold onto one or both of these guys into next season to try to get their value up.

Yeah i don't see Sakic trading Duchene to Carolina, Without one of Hanifin or Slavin being involved. If Sakic was asking Sergachev for Duchene i don't see Sakic being interested in Bean.

While I think Bean can be great, he's made expendable due to the defensive depth already on the roster. With this trade, we keep Fleury and still have Faulk/Slavin/Pesce/Hanifin. Add a veteran 5-6 guy and thats a solid D corps, Bean just isn't vital to the organization. As for your Duchene to Canes comment, it just makes the most sense considering the Canes seemingly infinite cap room and Colorado's need for young defenders. Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't bet against the Canes having Duchene on their opening night roster.

As a Canes fan living in Denver, I agree with you. I feel like a trade like this is much more likely if Sakic gets fired. New GM would want to build from ground up and 2 low-risk D prospects and a top 10 pick may just be the way they want to go.

Sergachev, absolutely. McCarron? I don't think any Habs fan is saying they wouldn't include McCarron...... Thing is Colorado wants D so McCarron doesn't fit the bill. Any other prospect not named Sergachev is available in this trade for Duchene. Any Hab fan who says otherwise just wants to horde picks and prospects and doesn't actually want to win a cup while we have one of the best goal scorers in the game, one of the best dmen in the game and arguably the best goalie in the game. Sergachev is the exception because we got to see him at the prospects camp this year and he is with out a doubt going to be a star in the NHL. McCarron, Juulsen, Sherbak, Hudon, etc are not locks to be.

Alright, so even lets say McCarron is available. Still, what would MTL give that would meet Sakics asking price for Duchene? McCarron, Juulsen, and a first makes sense from the Habs part. Even throw in a third to sweeten it up. But from not the Avs point of view but Sakic, he wants a top 4 solid puck moving dman, a first round pick, AND another major piece. Lets say the late first and the third covers for the first rounder, and McCarron is the big piece. They are still not giving Colorado the defenceman that they seek. The player MTL has that fits that bill is Serg, which MTL wont give. So as long as Sakic is around, dont expect a blockbuster to happen between Colorado and Montreal. Which is unfortunate as I could really see either one of Duchene or Landeskog fit into the Habs.

There is a reason no one has bitten yet....... That is a crazy high price for a very good but not superstar type player. Sakic will be forced to give in a little if he doesn't find a way. MTL is right to not want to part with Sergachev. He is the heir apparent on defence. Without him our D is Weber and that is it for the foreseeable future......that's a problem. One as big as the center position for us. So losing Sergachev for Duchene fills one need and creates another.

Well its either Sakic gives in or otherwise he will probably be given the boot. I mean we saw in Hall trade how high the value of defenceman are right now. Sakic is thinking the other way around, and it wont work

David Booth: Interesting comparison you made between Hall and his 6m long contract for Larsson and his 4.16m long term contract. While I thought the trade was pretty fair, since, it gave the Oilers what they wanted, I know most people though it was one sided.
So what is Duchene worth on his 6m contract for two years? Not nearly as much as what Sakic supposedly wants and not as much as most Avs fans think he's worth. What are really getting in Duchene, a 50 point guy? Might not be a difference maker.

Exactly. Also Hall has been more productive so far in his career than Duchene IMO. But another factor is that he is a center, so lets say Hall is the same as Duchene. If so, Sakic should be happy if he can land Sergachev or Hanafin by themselves. Remember Hall had a big 75+ point season several years ago on a Oilers team that used to be pure **** at a time when McDavid or Draisitl were not even in in the league. So for Sakic wanting that much for a guy who hasnt put up more than 60 points in a season is absurd. But it takes only one idiot GM to give Sakic what he wants.