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fully healthy with a very large and probably unfair trade

Créé par: zk97
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 12 nov. 2021
Publié: 12 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
PP:

Hertl
Toffoli - Suzuki - Hoffman
Petry

Gallagher
Drouin - Dvorak - Anderson
Lindholm

Caufield comes in every so often in place of one of the PPers
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Hertl, Tomas (2 225 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Brooks, Adam
  2. Byron, Paul
  3. Mysak, Jan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
anywhere for a late first
3.
MTL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus (2 602 778 $ retained)
  2. Manson, Josh
ANA
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (DET)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de ANA
Logo de CAR
Logo de MTL
Logo de TBL
Logo de MTL
Logo de DET
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
2023
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2024
Logo de MTL
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $64 862 977 $597 561 $1 475 000 $16 637 023 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
0 $0 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5

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12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 6
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Let's pretend that any of these trades made sense and would be accepted... as you say in the title, you yourself are aware that's a huge stretch...

You give up all your futures and pay up to the cap for 3 players who are all on expiring contracts, while you're in the bottom 3 in the league? It's not like it gets better next year, where you have 14 contracts signed and 13.8mil space. If you were to sign Hertl, he alone takes 7-8million from that. This just doesn't make any sense
12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 9
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Quoting: mvp13
Let's pretend that any of these trades made sense and would be accepted... as you say in the title, you yourself are aware that's a huge stretch...

You give up all your futures and pay up to the cap for 3 players who are all on expiring contracts, while you're in the bottom 3 in the league? It's not like it gets better next year, where you have 14 contracts signed and 13.8mil space. If you were to sign Hertl, he alone takes 7-8million from that. This just doesn't make any sense


guess i should've said this...

By this point Edmundson and Price are back and the team's on a hot streak. so this is like an overoptimistic look and it might be (okay, IS) unrealistic
12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 11
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Insanely hard pass from Detroit. Namestikov is having a great year, is a great fit and loves it here and both Wideman and Kulak are barely NHLers and don't help us at all.
12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Insanely hard pass from Detroit. Namestikov is having a great year, is a great fit and loves it here and both Wideman and Kulak are barely NHLers and don't help us at all.


mmm i'd agree on wideman. but definitely not kulak. he's really underrated and is a very good third pair dman.
plus i guess it doesnt have to be namestnikov, just any good 4th liner
12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 18
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mmm i'd agree on wideman. but definitely not kulak. he's really underrated and is a very good third pair dman.
plus i guess it doesnt have to be namestnikov, just any good 4th liner

The problem is that we already have too many 3rd pairing LHD... Unless we can add an impact player, for now and the future (age and cost control), it just doesn't make any sense for Detroit to be involved in trades. If we get to the TDL and we're out of it, then things change, but they're playing pretty well right now and at some point, they need to stop being sellers and look forward and this might be the year.
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12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
both Wideman and Kulak are barely NHLers


That's just not true.
12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 10
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Sharks decline + Hertl wouldn't waive for Canada.
12 nov. 2021 à 17 h 27
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Why would Detroit have any interest whatsoever in Kulak and Wideman????
12 nov. 2021 à 18 h 24
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Quoting: Bias_it_self
Sharks decline + Hertl wouldn't waive for Canada.


Yes he wont for Canada but even that

Hertl with retention
the 2nd is for the cap dump of Byron who was waive and unclaimed. negative value
the 1st is a year late. SJ wants a 2022 not a 2023 first for Hertl
Brooks is another waiver guy -- marginal AHL player who SJ could have claimed -- no value
Mysek is a nice middle 6 forward but he and a year late 1st does not get hertl.
 
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