Isles and Anaheim

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Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Saad, Brandon 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 5	O'Reilly, Ryan 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ C UFA - 2	Perron, David 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Beauvillier, Anthony 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3	Schenn, Brayden 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 7	Kyrou, Jordan 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Rakell, Rickard 2 463 139 $2 463 139 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Thomas, Robert 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Buchnevich, Pavel 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 4
Barbashev, Ivan 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Sundqvist, Oskar 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2	Kostin, Klim 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) AG, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindholm, Hampus 2 602 778 $2 602 778 $ DG UFA - 1	Parayko, Colton 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Binnington, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NTC UFA - 6
Perunovich, Scott 925 000 $925 000 $ (1 300 000 $$1M) DG RFA - 1	Faulk, Justin 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 6	Husso, Ville 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Scandella, Marco 3 275 000 $3 275 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 2

7 nov. 2021 à 6 h 55

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Beauvillier has been elite this year, young and under a reasonable contract, he's pretty much untouchable if it's not in a package for a superstar. Mayfield's been much better than expected this season (probably due to playing much with Pelech, but still) and he's under 2 more years for 1.450 M, that's too good to even consider moving imo. Bortuzzo seems like a worse Mayfield in every aspect. Walman's surely better then Chára, but Beauviller for Tarasenko is a W every day for Blues considering their age and trajectories going forward. Imo there is no deal to be made here.

7 nov. 2021 à 6 h 59

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Quoting: Isles10

Beauvillier has been elite this year, young and under a reasonable contract, he's pretty much untouchable if it's not in a package for a superstar. Mayfield's been much better than expected this season (probably due to playing much with Pelech, but still) and he's under 2 more years for 1.450 M, that's too good to even consider moving imo. Bortuzzo seems like a worse Mayfield in every aspect. Walman's surely better then Chára, but Beauviller for Tarasenko is a W every day for Blues considering their age and trajectories going forward. Imo there is no deal to be made here.

Haven't kept up too much with how the Isles have been playing. Just constantly hearing Chara getting crucified and knew there was strong interest in Vladi. Also heard Isles may be having trouble potting goals. Bortz definitely < Mayfield. Like I said, thought Bortz would be an adequate candidate to fill his absence and operating under the assumption Isles view Vladi scoring potential and getting a solid LD more than Beau. But if he's playing really well rn then yeah the value may be a bit off.

7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 7

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Quoting: Aidian1

Haven't kept up too much with how the Isles have been playing. Just constantly hearing Chara getting crucified and knew there was strong interest in Vladi. Also heard Isles may be having trouble potting goals. Bortz definitely < Mayfield. Like I said, thought Bortz would be an adequate candidate to fill his absence and operating under the assumption Isles view Vladi scoring potential and getting a solid LD more than Beau. But if he's playing really well rn then yeah the value may be a bit off.

Mayfield has been better than Bortuzzo so far this year, look at their overall impact. Weigh in their age, contracts, and roles and I don't see why Isles would swap them. A simple stat to summarize; Bortuzzo's average game score is 0.31and Mayfield's is 0.71. A solid LD more than Beau? So you suggest Isles would rather have Jake Walman than Anthony Beauvillier? That's something... Beauvillier has been really good for a couple of years, but now he seems to finally take the step to be an elite winger rather than a really good one. May come as a surprise, but as you said yourself, not many people bother to watch or keep up with the Isles.

7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 13

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Mayfield has been better than Bortuzzo so far this year, look at their overall impact. Weigh in their age, contracts, and roles and I don't see why Isles would swap them. A simple stat to summarize; Bortuzzo's average game score is 0.31and Mayfield's is 0.71. A solid LD more than Beau? So you suggest Isles would rather have Jake Walman than Anthony Beauvillier? That's something... Beauvillier has been really good for a couple of years, but now he seems to finally take the step to be an elite winger rather than a really good one. May come as a surprise, but as you said yourself, not many people bother to watch or keep up with the Isles.

Think you just misread what I said because I kind of did it backwards lol. Bortuzzo< Mayfield =Mayfield>Bortuzzo. Then the rest of what I said makes more sense from the view point I had which may be wrong.

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 15

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Think you just misread what I said because I kind of did it backwards lol. Bortuzzo< Mayfield =Mayfield>Bortuzzo. Then the rest of what I said makes more sense from the view point I had which may be wrong.

Aha sorry haha. I would love Tarasenko, it just feels that we have to get rid of Bailey first and Blues probably don't want him. I would be willing to give up some solid prospect and picks for Tarasenko though, he's looked like his real self so far. Do you have any intel in regards to him still wanting to leave or has he changed his mind?

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 24

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Aha sorry haha. I would love Tarasenko, it just feels that we have to get rid of Bailey first and Blues probably don't want him. I would be willing to give up some solid prospect and picks for Tarasenko though, he's looked like his real self so far. Do you have any intel in regards to him still wanting to leave or has he changed his mind?

No solid Intel anyways lol. Beau was just the only piece that was ever of any interest to me because I think he fills a hole on the 2nd line LW considering all the Russians we've got that like to play their off hand RW lol. I love the dude, id rather just keep him personally and I'm still holding out hopes he changes his mind and potentially even finish his career off here. Just like toying around with trades on here. He looks happy, he seems to have a really solid connection with teammates right now, playing really well and seems more passionate/motivated than I've seen him in a LONG time. A lot more determination to his game than he's even had in some of his better seasons, especially off the puck and defensively.

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 28

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No solid Intel anyways lol. Beau was just the only piece that was ever of any interest to me because I think he fills a hole on the 2nd line LW considering all the Russians we've got that like to play their off hand RW lol. I love the dude, id rather just keep him personally and I'm still holding out hopes he changes his mind and potentially even finish his career off here. Just like toying around with trades on here. He looks happy, he seems to have a really solid connection with teammates right now, playing really well and seems more passionate/motivated than I've seen him in a LONG time. A lot more determination to his game than he's even had in some of his better seasons, especially off the puck and defensively.

Yeah I get that. Hope it turns out great for both parties. Don't you guys play Perron 1LW and Saad 2LW? I know Perron is a righty, but hasn't he played LW all his career? Your forward depth this year is crazy imo.

Perron - O'Reilly - Tarasenko
Saad - Schenn - Buchnevich
Kyrou - Thomas - Kostin
Barbashev - Sundqvist - Bozak
(Neal - Brown - Neighbours)
(Clifford - Joshua - Anas)

Probably completely off on the lines, just put the names down. That's some serious depth imo.

7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 40

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Yeah I get that. Hope it turns out great for both parties. Don't you guys play Perron 1LW and Saad 2LW? I know Perron is a righty, but hasn't he played LW all his career? Your forward depth this year is crazy imo.

Perron - O'Reilly - Tarasenko
Saad - Schenn - Buchnevich
Kyrou - Thomas - Kostin
Barbashev - Sundqvist - Bozak
(Neal - Brown - Neighbours)
(Clifford - Joshua - Anas)

Probably completely off on the lines, just put the names down. That's some serious depth imo.

With the covid protocols, injury to Schenn last game, Buch suspension... the line have been pretty jumbled. Thomas W/ Vladi has been the one unchanged piece of the line up since start of training camp even lol. Tried Perron on the left with O'Reilly and Kyrou and vice versa... Not a fan haha. Forward depth is certainly awesome for the Blues right now, every line contributing. Think the full roster line up I like best is
Saad-O'Reilly-Perron
Kyrou-Schenn-Buch
Barbashev-Thomas-Tarasenko
Neighbours-Bozak-Kostin
Think we got one good game with this line up before suspension, Rona, Injury hit. Sundqvist will come back soon and likely be Kostin-Bozak-Sundqvist 4th line. Let it be noted the "3rd line" most nights had similar ice time as the 1st lol.

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 44

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With the covid protocols, injury to Schenn last game, Buch suspension... the line have been pretty jumbled. Thomas W/ Vladi has been the one unchanged piece of the line up since start of training camp even lol. Tried Perron on the left with O'Reilly and Kyrou and vice versa... Not a fan haha. Forward depth is certainly awesome for the Blues right now, every line contributing. Think the full roster line up I like best is
Saad-O'Reilly-Perron
Kyrou-Schenn-Buch
Barbashev-Thomas-Tarasenko
Neighbours-Bozak-Kostin
Think we got one good game with this line up before suspension, Rona, Injury hit. Sundqvist will come back soon and likely be Kostin-Bozak-Sundqvist 4th line. Let it be noted the "3rd line" most nights had similar ice time as the 1st lol.

As a Swede, I've always loved Sundqvist's game. In your SC playoffs, he was a beast. Hope he'll be back soon. Which player have you been most disappointed with so far?

7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 48

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Beauvillier has been the isles best forward this season - 7 pts in 9 games with strong analytics. He’s a core player and pretty much untouchable.

Tarasenko to the isles is very unlikely to happen - Bailey would need to get traded to the Blues or elsewhere to make it happen because no one else is coming out of the lineup for Tarasenko.

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 52

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The Isles are not doing that. And hard pass on the Anaheim trade, it's way too much.

7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 52

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As a Swede, I've always loved Sundqvist's game. In your SC playoffs, he was a beast. Hope he'll be back soon. Which player have you been most disappointed with so far?

Sunny has a very complete game. Perfect 3rd-4th liner who can jump up the line up in a pinch and play well. We love him. Scandella by far has been the most noticeably frustrating player to watch for me. He has had some really solid games but he's been fairly inconsistent. Kostin is another, awesome player, who's done really good things and has a ton of potential but he's taken some really stupid penalties at tough times, on the wrong side of the ice. Bad penalties is probably the easiest way to get on my **** list lol I used to hate Perron for this reason.

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 55

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As a Ducks fan, I don't want Krug coming back. That would mean two 30-year-old Left Defensemen under contract for another 4 (/5) years with a $6M+ cap hit on a rebuilding team that has a lot of really good LD prospects (mainly Thrun and Zellweger, but also Benoit, Mahura and LaCombe). But the Blues shouldn't do that trade either.

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7 nov. 2021 à 7 h 58

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The Isles are not doing that. And hard pass on the Anaheim trade, it's way too much.

So I've been told. And yeah, not sure what Anaheim is looking to get for them, was operating under the assumption we'd have an extension laid out for atleast one of them.

7 nov. 2021 à 8 h 2

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As a Ducks fan, I don't want Krug coming back. That would mean two 30-year-old Left Defensemen under contract for another 4 (/5) years with a $6M+ cap hit on a rebuilding team that has a lot of really good LD prospects (mainly Thrun and Zellweger, but also Benoit, Mahura and LaCombe). But the Blues shouldn't do that trade either.

Makes sense. As great as he is I'd rather not have his contract either hahah. Kind of an unnecessary luxury defenseman imo considering we have Faulk and a kid making under a mil who can quarter back a powerplay well.

7 nov. 2021 à 8 h 5

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As a Ducks fan, I don't want Krug coming back. That would mean two 30-year-old Left Defensemen under contract for another 4 (/5) years with a $6M+ cap hit on a rebuilding team that has a lot of really good LD prospects (mainly Thrun and Zellweger, but also Benoit, Mahura and LaCombe). But the Blues shouldn't do that trade either.

What do you think the price would be on Lindholm from the Blues? We'd obviously have to send a contract back unless they retain a fair bit for this season.

7 nov. 2021 à 8 h 8

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Beauvillier has been the isles best forward this season - 7 pts in 9 games with strong analytics. He’s a core player and pretty much untouchable.

Tarasenko to the isles is very unlikely to happen - Bailey would need to get traded to the Blues or elsewhere to make it happen because no one else is coming out of the lineup for Tarasenko.

Yeah, guess Isles are totally out then.

7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 16

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What do you think the price would be on Lindholm from the Blues? We'd obviously have to send a contract back unless they retain a fair bit for this season.

I think the Ducks would be willing to retain 50%. But some contract would have to moved nevertheless. The 2022 1st + a 2nd/3rd + a prospect should be enough to get Lindholm with 50% retention.

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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 27

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Interesting deals both

Refreshing how unique they are

One critique is ANA likely want futures over Krug

If they retained on their assets

It'd probably be better ultimately

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7 nov. 2021 à 11 h 12

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Isles are not trading Beauvillier. He is cost controlled the next few years and prime for a breakout season.

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7 nov. 2021 à 11 h 13

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Quoting: TZ11

As a Ducks fan, I don't want Krug coming back. That would mean two 30-year-old Left Defensemen under contract for another 4 (/5) years with a $6M+ cap hit on a rebuilding team that has a lot of really good LD prospects (mainly Thrun and Zellweger, but also Benoit, Mahura and LaCombe). But the Blues shouldn't do that trade either.

We don’t wanna give him up

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