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Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2017
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So the leafs want to upgrade their d. Assume it is someone who is top pairing or top pairing potential. Under 27. Hard to find. I'm really stretching to see who they could get. Trouba? Maybe Dumba but he isn't that good. Vatanene but again not THAT good. Definitely top 4 but not necessarily top 2. Hamilton? Hamonic but again is he top 4 or top 2? Is Ghostisbehere available after a sophomore slump?

Maybe a less proven or high end prospect? Theodore? But does he really have top pair potential because we have dough 4-6 guys. Chabot? But he wouldn't be available.
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    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 13
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    There are tons of those guys available and all it will cost you is Auston Matthews straight up. Boston will offer you McAvoy for him right now. Basically what I'm saying is if you want that type of player you will need to give up some of your core to get them. I don't see why Calgary would take the deal you gave them at all. Thats like no value whatsoever for a guy they paid a top 15 first rounder and two seconds for. Give them atleast a first and two seconds at the very least. In reality you need to pay more than that to get him. So the price is like your 2017 first, Kasperi Kapanen, your 2017 second and your 2018 second. Why would they deal him for less unless they absolutely just don't want him?
    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 32
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    At first glance what has all this dealing really accomplished? An exchange of 4 RHD....Hamilton and Fransson for Carrick and Marchenko. Yes the win the exchange the exchange. And let's forget picks in a draft, player value are important.
    The Isles are one team that do have excess Dmen that can't all be protected...maybe a deal is possible there. As are Ducks and Wild.
    As a Leaf fan, I would like to improve the RHD, but if deal isn' there so what. Zaitsev, Carrick and Marchenko are still Leafs next year. As are Gardiner and Reilly. It would be easy to improve at LHD via trade or UFA, even just short term. Teams that are rebuilding and may want to build or have cap space issues might be other teams that have solid Dmen available for prospects.
    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 34
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    At first glance what has all this dealing really accomplished? An exchange of 4 RHD....Hamilton and Fransson for Carrick and Marchenko. Yes the win the exchange the exchange. And let's forget picks in a draft, player value are important.
    The Isles are one team that do have excess Dmen that can't all be protected...maybe a deal is possible there. As are Ducks and Wild.
    As a Leaf fan, I would like to improve the RHD, but if deal isn' there so what. Zaitsev, Carrick and Marchenko are still Leafs next year. As are Gardiner and Reilly. It would be easy to improve at LHD via trade or UFA, even just short term. Teams that are rebuilding and may want to build or have cap space issues might be other teams that have solid Dmen available for prospects.


    Your a leafs fan? I thought you were cool.... jk
    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 42
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    Nobody Cares: I'm cool in my own mind. Sure would like to know who these "ton of guys" (Dmen) that would be fair value for Matthews. I really can't think of any of the top of my head that are contracts that would be four or five years long that would be close to the value of Matthews.
    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 47
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    Nobody Cares: I'm cool in my own mind. Sure would like to know who these "ton of guys" (Dmen) that would be fair value for Matthews. I really can't think of any of the top of my head that are contracts that would be four or five years long that would be close to the value of Matthews.


    I didn't say fair value for him. I just said you'd have to give up core. Maybe Ekblad is fair value though. Chew on that. Trouba is good too. Dumba is having a big year. Theres just lots of top pair RHD coming along and Matthews is better, but if you want their guy you pay their price.
    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 51
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    Nobody Cares: I'm cool in my own mind. Sure would like to know who these "ton of guys" (Dmen) that would be fair value for Matthews. I really can't think of any of the top of my head that are contracts that would be four or five years long that would be close to the value of Matthews.


    I didn't say fair value for him. I just said you'd have to give up core. Maybe Ekblad is fair value though. Chew on that. Trouba is good too. Dumba is having a big year. Theres just lots of top pair RHD coming along and Matthews is better, but if you want their guy you pay their price.

    I wouldn't trade Matthews for anyone if I was Toronto, but why would anyone else take your garbage for their greatness? Soshnikov Carrick Komarov and futures that aren't even firsts have like very very little value. My post was aimed to be as out of bounds as this mock is. I lowball'd you as much as you lowball'd Calgary.
    10 mars 2017 à 11 h 59
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    Nobody Cares "There are tons of those guys available and all it will cost you is Auston Matthews straight up". I'm just going be your original quote. You seem to have back tracked quickly.

    Oh, by the way, I never lowballed Calgary. I never made the post.
    10 mars 2017 à 12 h 3
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    Nobody Cares "There are tons of those guys available and all it will cost you is Auston Matthews straight up". I'm just going be your original quote. You seem to have back tracked quickly.

    Oh, by the way, I never lowballed Calgary. I never made the post.

    Yes that's my quote and I stand by it. IT WILL COST YOU MATTHEWS STRAIGHT UP because they aren't for trade unless for overpay. I never once said I would trade Matthews or that it's fair value, which your basically saying I did. I'm saying it costs your Matthews because they aren't taking the garbage your going to offer. Do you understand now bro? jesus
    10 mars 2017 à 12 h 4
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    Nobody Cares "There are tons of those guys available and all it will cost you is Auston Matthews straight up". I'm just going be your original quote. You seem to have back tracked quickly.

    Oh, by the way, I never lowballed Calgary. I never made the post.

    Yes that's my quote and I stand by it. IT WILL COST YOU MATTHEWS STRAIGHT UP because they aren't for trade unless for overpay. I never once said I would trade Matthews or that it's fair value, which your basically saying I did. I'm saying it costs your Matthews because they aren't taking the garbage your going to offer. Do you understand now bro? jesus


    I know you didn't offer it by your other teams fan did, i respond to you both the same because your of the same teams fan base. You didn't make this post but You (Toronto fans) are responsible for it. get it?
    10 mars 2017 à 12 h 12
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    Yes that's my quote and I stand by it. IT WILL COST YOU MATTHEWS STRAIGHT UP because they aren't for trade unless for overpay. I never once said I would trade Matthews or that it's fair value, which your basically saying I did. I'm saying it costs your Matthews because they aren't taking the garbage your going to offer. Do you understand now bro? jesus


    I know you didn't offer it by your other teams fan did, i respond to you both the same because your of the same teams fan base. You didn't make this post but You (Toronto fans) are responsible for it. get it?


    This logic doesn't work on this site. You can't lump all fans of a team together. PalHal isn't some TOR fanboy that overrates the Leafs. He is probably the one who calls out the home-team bias and inequities the most.
    10 mars 2017 à 12 h 23
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    I know you didn't offer it by your other teams fan did, i respond to you both the same because your of the same teams fan base. You didn't make this post but You (Toronto fans) are responsible for it. get it?


    This logic doesn't work on this site. You can't lump all fans of a team together. PalHal isn't some TOR fanboy that overrates the Leafs. He is probably the one who calls out the home-team bias and inequities the most.


    That's why I joked about him being a toronto fan and saying i thought he was cool. I've read enough posts of his to assume he is not the normal leaf fan.
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    I think the Leafs' best bet is to target a player who could POTENTIALLY reach top-pairing status.

    When thinking about RHD, names like Josh Manson and Brett Pesce are often brought up but those two players will likely not be made available to acquire. If anything, Anaheim will trade Vatanen before risk losing Manson, and Carolina don't really have strong RHD depth after Faulk and Pesce.

    A name I've brought up but many others haven't that I think has true potential is Colin Miller from the Boston Bruins.

    He's a 24-year-old RHD and has been playing on the Bruins' bottom-pairing, which is hilarious, considering how much better he is than either McQuaid or Carlo. The Bruins clearly don't know what they have with him, and with McAvoy possibly joining the team next year, he could potentially be had at minimal cost compared to much more high-profile d-men around the league.

    He's real solid defensively, can skate, and make effective breakout passes. I think he would be an ideal partner for Rielly.

    And he was the captain of the Soo Greyhounds when he played in the OHL so Kyle Dubas probably knows who he is and might already be on his and the Leafs' radar.
     
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