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Créé par: Rob32sjsharks

Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 5 oct. 2021

Publié: 6 oct. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

it’s time to rebuild!
Trading Hertl sucks... it just does, but it’s a necessary evil. I saw a form of this trade on a Rangers post and I want to run with it, Meier could be deadly in that rangers lineup and adds a little grit as well, but with Leonard Dahlin and Eklund we have too many quality LW and losing Meier wont hurt us much.
I think Hertl is a better fit for the rangers than Eichel, both cap wise and what they have to give up to get each player.
This makes the rangers a team that could compete offensively with any team in their division.
now and I only assume this works with an extension in place.
on the flip side this gives the sharks 2 players that fill holes now and in the future, Strome would be our top RW we desperately need and Chytil will be a weaker 2C now and in the future should be a stud 2c!
the rest of the trades are deadline deals we set up as we see the season slip away.
this should set us up with a top 7 pick again and hopefully we can land another playmaker like Eklund.
my hope is for a lousy season where a few top guys miss time and we sink to the bottom of the NHL. A playoff run or fight for playoff spot only weakens our future at this point.

Transactions

SJS

Chytil, Filip
Strome, Ryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)

NYR

SJS

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)

CGY

Labanc, Kevin

SJS

Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (DAL)

DAL

Gambrell, Dylan

SJS

Team TBD just a d depth player for any team in need

SEA

Simek, Radim

SJS

Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (WSH)

WSH

Cogliano, Andrew (500 000 $ retained)

SJS

Koskinen, Mikko
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Koskinen or Smith falter and Edmonton needs a dependable goalie with some playoff experience. 3rd for Reimer upgrades to a 2nd with us taking koskinen back as a cap dump.

EDM

Reimer, James

Rachats de contrats

Martin Jones: 1 916 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Andrew Cogliano: 500 000 $ (100%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	59 627 500 $	0 $	940 000 $	21 872 500 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Eklund, William 925 000 $925 000 $ AG RFA - 5	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 6	Strome, Ryan 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Dahlén, Jonathan 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Chytil, Filip 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Balcers, Rūdolfs 1 550 000 $1 550 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Leonard, John 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Bonino, Nick 1 025 000 $1 025 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Barabanov, Alexander 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Nieto, Matt 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Chmelevski, Alexander 778 333 $778 333 $ (132 500 $$132K) C RFA - 1
	Weatherby, Jasper 842 500 $842 500 $ (82 500 $$82K) C UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Ferraro, Mario 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG UFA - 1	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4
Knyzhov, Nikolai 796 667 $796 667 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Hill, Adin 2 175 000 $2 175 000 $ G UFA - 2
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 5	Merkley, Ryan 863 333 $863 333 $ (300 000 $$300K) DD UFA - 2	Koskinen, Mikko 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Viel, Jeffrey 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 2		Kane, Evander 2 108 696 $2 108 696 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 1
Blichfeld, Joachim 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Middleton, Jake 725 000 $725 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Eklund, W.		Couture, L.
	Balcers, R.		Karlsson, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Dahlén, J.			Barabanov, A.
	Leonard, J.	Burns, B.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Nieto, M.	Weatherby, J.
	Knyzhov, N.	Vlasic, M.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Leonard, J.	Balcers, R.
	Ferraro, M.	Burns, B.

6 oct. 2021 à 21 h 40

Timmah007

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Oilers decline because you called kosk a cap dump.

6 oct. 2021 à 21 h 48

delneggs

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Very intriguing trade for the Rangers. Doubt they would give up 2 centers, so maybe drop either Chytil or Strome and add a winger like Kravstov or a D like Jones and it could work.

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6 oct. 2021 à 21 h 50

delneggs

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Quoting: Timmah007

Oilers decline because you called kosk a cap dump.

Calling him a cap dumb is being polite

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6 oct. 2021 à 21 h 58

FunMustBeAlways

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Quoting: Timmah007

Oilers decline because you called kosk a cap dump.

Don’t see how that’s untrue but okay.

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6 oct. 2021 à 22 h 9

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Oilers need to ask more than a 2nd in that.

6 oct. 2021 à 22 h 35

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Given Meier's RFA status and how low the NYR picks are likely to be I honestly think that's a good offer for Meier alone (maybe a little hefty ultimately)

SJ even was kind enough to keep his point totals low

So he can re-signed relatively cheaply 😊

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6 oct. 2021 à 22 h 36

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Quoting: Timmah007

Oilers decline because you called kosk a cap dump.

Do you mean in how it'd impact negotiations?

6 oct. 2021 à 22 h 54

Timmah007

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Quoting: Radu47

Do you mean in how it'd impact negotiations?

Just disagree that kosk is seen as a cap dump.

6 oct. 2021 à 22 h 58

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Quoting: delneggs

Calling him a cap dumb is being polite

How so? He’s had one down year. I don’t see how Gibson has 3 down years in a row and is still considered an elite starter but kosk has one down year with reasonable explanations but calling him a cap dump is polite?

6 oct. 2021 à 23 h 12

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If you are blowing it up I think you do everything you can to trade burns before he declined more and becomes untradable.

I also think you strongly consider trading couture as I most likely he won't be worth his contract when you're trying to compete in ideally 3-4 years.

You are stuck with Vlasic and likely EK as veterans. Try to get out from your other big contracts while you can

6 oct. 2021 à 23 h 49

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Quoting: Timmah007

Just disagree that kosk is seen as a cap dump.

If he had value Holland would have moved him already thus he is a cap dump

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7 oct. 2021 à 0 h 12

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Quoting: Timmah007

How does Gibson figure into this conversation? Koisk is OVERPAID and no GM would take him straight up at his cost, so he would be a cap dump. Pretty simple really.

7 oct. 2021 à 6 h 59

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Quoting: vols94

If he had value Holland would have moved him already thus he is a cap dump

Maybe Holland didn’t think moving him was actually any sort of priority because he is proven very capable no sense in moving him in a sideways trade for a guy who the coach doesn’t know as well. It’s important to try and understand why a player any player had a down year in kosk case it’s pretty simple to see he didn’t have much of a chance to get in a groove.

7 oct. 2021 à 13 h 0

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Quoting: Timmah007

Oilers decline because you called kosk a cap dump.

isn’t he though? he’s 4.5 mil agains the cap and hasn’t played well the last few years, getting relegated to backup for a 40 year old well travels bet isn’t a good sign!

7 oct. 2021 à 13 h 2

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Quoting: glarson17

Oilers need to ask more than a 2nd in that.

Reimer is an older vet so his value is less due to the strong possibility he regresses next year and we’re only taking the cap hit of koskinen for 1/2 a year in this scenario. plus i don’t want to be a homer and over-ask for value.

7 oct. 2021 à 13 h 7

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Quoting: Radu47

I truly hope both players flourish for NY in this scenario.
the value might be lower than most would expect back but Strome would be a very valuable addition as he is a RH shot who would be out top line RW and Chytil could end up being very close to Hertl replacement level player in a year or two, add the picks and the idea Meier as a LW isn’t as valuable to us because of how overloaded we are on the LW i think this is fair and a big plus for both teams.

7 oct. 2021 à 13 h 15

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Quoting: BCAPP

these idea were in my mind as well.
however Burns and Couture both have NTC and can crush any deal they don’t want, plus every NHL GM knows they are on the decline and their deals will be burdens in the last 2 years of each deal. my thoughts are with all the space from
the other moves we have enough cap now to pay the kids comming up and keep the team together and allow Burns and Couture to be anchors and give solid leadership
mentorship to the team. plus we don’t have any RD heir for Burns or any 1C heir in the system yet. so we keep both and start drafting their heir apparent with the hope in 2-3 years they can start supplanting them in the lineup.
plus it’s never good to do a full tear down and rebuild. you need leadership and vets on teams the help the kids grow and mature and this allows the sharks to stay somewhat stable white they go through a rebuild. plus we will need these guys salaries for the next few years to stay above the cap
floor until the kids start getting larger deals in 3-4 years

7 oct. 2021 à 14 h 7

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Thats a fair analysis. I just think with being stuck with Vlasic and likely EK you should try to get out of burns and couture could still give you value.

For example I think Minnesota/NYR could both really like him if they want to go less expensive than Eichel.

7 oct. 2021 à 14 h 10

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

isn’t he though? he’s 4.5 mil agains the cap and hasn’t played well the last few years, getting relegated to backup for a 40 year old well travels bet isn’t a good sign!

Last season was rough for him but that’s understandable considering he had to play every game until smith joined the team that was an incredible amount to ask of any goalie. He was then made the back up for smith the rest of the way but that’s in large part because smith played out of his mind good. Can’t hold it against kosk that smith went into beast mode. Just the season before kosk put up very similar numbers to markstrom who got a bigger payday than kosk current deal. I just don’t agree he’s overpaid he does what’s expected of for his cap hit he might be considered the “back up” and that is a lot to pay a back up but he’s going to play 35-40 games if smith stays healthy more possibly a lot more if smith doesn’t stay healthy.

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