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JVR-Manson trade

Créé par: jamesvanhockey
Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 5 mars 2017
Publié: 5 mars 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Nylander struggles at centre this gives us the flexibility to move Boyle to 3C and the goat to 4C for a little.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
64 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
21 800 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
VGK
  1. Fehr, Eric
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 4th round pick 2017 (for taking Fehr)
2.
3.
TOR
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Bozak, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2019
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2373 000 000 $60 355 832 $5 370 000 $5 025 000 $12 644 168 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
612 500 $612 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 2
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
AG
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $
C
UFA - 1
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance125 000 $$125K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
825 000 $825 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 4
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3

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5 mars 2017 à 16 h 28
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Why on earth would Tampa want bozak? Zero reasons for lightning to add more forwards.
5 mars 2017 à 16 h 30
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I have no idea how good that Roy guy is but if there's a JVR-Manson Swap Toronto needs to be getting lots back

Also why do we take Fehr's contract on for a 4th round pick then trade him away with the 4th?
5 mars 2017 à 17 h 35
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I doubt the Bolts will give away one of their top prospects for Bozak.
5 mars 2017 à 17 h 44
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Quoting: StammerTime
Why on earth would Tampa want bozak? Zero reasons for lightning to add more forwards.


Quoting: boltscharge17
I doubt the Bolts will give away one of their top prospects for Bozak.


The reason Tampa does this is because after shipping out Filpulla (who was overpayed but still important to their team) they lack that 3C behind Stamkos and Johnson also since Toronto retains half the salary, this is likely the cheapest 3C guy they could get. Tough to give up Howden but that's what Toronto would want in order to replenish our center depth
5 mars 2017 à 17 h 50
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Quoting: LeafsFan
I have no idea how good that Roy guy is but if there's a JVR-Manson Swap Toronto needs to be getting lots back

Also why do we take Fehr's contract on for a 4th round pick then trade him away with the 4th?



Roy is a decent prospect but it could be switched for Sam Steel or Max Jones. Not quite sure how much Anaheim values this guy. This is more of a frame for the deal not an exact offer.
Then the reason we give up a 4th for vegas to take Fehr is so that we don't loose anyone important in the draft. By acquiring Manson we would want to do 8/1 protection (Rielly, Gardiner, Manson, Carrick, Bozak, Kadri, Brown, Leipsic, Andersen). The Bozak trade wouldn't happen till after the expansion draft so we would need to protect him. Personally I don't mind that we gave up Corrado to essentially make sure none of Leivo, Komorav, Rychel or our other guys get taken if that's what the Fehr trade comes down to.
5 mars 2017 à 18 h 10
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Sorry James. In a trade, Manson has more value than JVR. And you want Ducks to add. OK, I get you don't like Bozak, but to try to promote Boyle to third line....that's a step backwards.
Why even try to resign Boyle?
5 mars 2017 à 18 h 23
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2 Northeastern alumni eh? (Manson and Roy) i like it

If tampa offers that then, sure, take it. But i feel he still has a lot of value on the leafs. What if Nylander isn't cut out to be a centre? were screwed

I personally would take JVR for Manson straight up. Hes 25, protected, and just what this team needs. I'm not saying there have equal market value, But Manson would be more valuable to the leafs than JVR

If Vegas takes a 4th to not take Komarov, Leivo, or Marincin than sure.

BTW Leivo has way more value than Leipsic (RIGHT NOW)
5 mars 2017 à 21 h 21
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Manson has way more value than JVR .. that trade doesn't do it. Maybe there in a prospect or pick and it would be vloser
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6 mars 2017 à 0 h 55
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I'm with Nate, Manson has more value. If the Leafs could get a 1 for 1 deal close to the expansion draft than that would be sweet but the Leafs would most likely need to add to get that deal. The better idea may be 1 for 1 with Vatanen. His value seems to be dropping with the emergence of Manson and Montour but would still fill out our toprice 4 pretty nicely.
6 mars 2017 à 8 h 12
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Bozak with $2MM retained would be a fantastic deal! The downside is that he only has 1 year remaining... I could see Yzerman doing this though (depending on how much he values that prospect - I'm not familiar) because the Lightning would be a legitimate threat to win the Cup next year. Doing so would raise the trade value of everyone in the dressing room - making Tampa's future cap issues much easier to deal with.

It's a bit of a gamble, but not an unreasonable one.
6 mars 2017 à 8 h 43
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JVR: better than Corey Perry for half the price. He would immediately become the Ducks #1 LW. So of course he isn't worth a depth defenseman + an undersized prospect who likely won't see NHL ice.

Oh, wait!
6 mars 2017 à 9 h 49
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JVR: better than Corey Perry for half the price. He would immediately become the Ducks #1 LW. So of course he isn't worth a depth defenseman + an undersized prospect who likely won't see NHL ice.

Oh, wait!


Hall > JVR
Manson > Larsson

Edmonton screwed everyone by making that deal.
6 mars 2017 à 12 h 13
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Modifié 6 mars 2017 à 12 h 20
Quoting: Canadian_Rednek


Hall > JVR
Manson > Larsson

Edmonton screwed everyone by making that deal.


Yup. But no way is Manson better than Larsson. They play in the same division on similar-strength teams, and Larsson's stats are well above. You could even argue that Larsson is better than any Anaheim defenseman at the moment.
 
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