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The QuinNtet

Créé par: Bruins79Nation
Date de création initiale: sep 19, 2021
Publié: 19 sep à 18 h 07
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Hughes, Quinn36 500 000 $
Transactions
NJD
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Hughes, Quinn [Droits de RFA]
VAN
  1. Mukhamadullin, Shakir [Liste de réserve]
  2. Okhotyuk, Nikita
  3. Smith, Ty
  4. Stillman, Chase
  5. 2022 1e round pick (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
  • Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Will Butcher: 910 569 $ (24%)
Frais appliqués
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NJD
NJD
NJD
EDM
NYI
CBJ
NJD
NJD
2023
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
2024
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 968 902 $0 $2 850 000 $531 098 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NJD
Tatar, Tomas
4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NJD
Hischier, Nico
7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 6
NJD
Sharangovich, Yegor
2 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA - 2
NJD
Kuokkanen, Janne
1 825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
NJD
Hughes, Jack
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
NJD
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
2 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Boqvist, Jesper
925 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
NJD
Wood, Miles
2 750 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
NJD
Mcleod, Michael
975 000 $
C
RFA - 2
NJD
Studenic, Marian
750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NJD
Graves, Ryan
3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
NJD
Hamilton, Dougie
9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
NJD
Bernier, Jonathan
4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Hughes, Quinn
6 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
NJD
Severson, Damon
4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
NJD
Blackwood, Mackenzie
2 800 000 $
G
RFA - 2
NJD
Siegenthaler, Jonas
1 125 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NJD
Jaros, Christian
800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
NJD
Wedgewood, Scott
825 000 $
G
UFA - 1
NJD
Subban, P.K.
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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19 sep à 18 h 29
#1
Colin
Rejoint: nov 2020
Messages: 413
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Would you do it for Smith, Holtz, and a pick?
19 sep à 18 h 29
#2
AKA Pezzetta23
Rejoint: jun 2017
Messages: 12,384
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That’s not a quintet. That’s a trio. They need to draft Jack Hughes and trade for Jack Quinn to get a quintet.

Also, the Canucks (should) accept that in a heartbeat. Then again, it’s Jim Benning, so maybe they wouldn’t.
19 sep à 18 h 38
#3
MERCER SZN
Rejoint: nov 2017
Messages: 15,090
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Quoting: cooliny
Would you do it for Smith, Holtz, and a pick?


No way
cooliny et Fff a aimé ceci.
19 sep à 18 h 47
#4
AN "ORIGINAL SIX"
Rejoint: oct 2016
Messages: 475
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No Thanks! and Hughes won't sign for that either.
19 sep à 19 h 05
#5
Do I look nervous
Rejoint: jun 2021
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Quoting: Devil1122
No way


Unfortunately for the Devils, if Quinn were to ever be traded, New Jersey would have to give up the most compared to other teams simply cause the Canucks would have massive leverage. New Jersey would have to overpay a lot to get him out unless he has a NMC which I doubt will happen
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19 sep à 19 h 20
#6
Rejoint: nov 2020
Messages: 873
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I know everyone thinks of uniting the three Hughes bros but if Canucks were moving Hughes they would take the best offer from all 31 other teams . I don't think Benning would care one bit about making sure the three bothers were together.
remowilliams a aimé ceci.
19 sep à 19 h 47
#7
Judd Bracket ripoff
Rejoint: jui 2019
Messages: 1,773
Mentions "j'aime": 698
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
That’s not a quintet. That’s a trio. They need to draft Jack Hughes and trade for Jack Quinn to get a quintet.

Also, the Canucks (should) accept that in a heartbeat. Then again, it’s Jim Benning, so maybe they wouldn’t.


Why should the Canucks accept this offer? It makes them considerably worse
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19 sep à 19 h 51
#8
Banni
Rejoint: aoû 2021
Messages: 76
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Quoting: Juiceman
Unfortunately for the Devils, if Quinn were to ever be traded, New Jersey would have to give up the most compared to other teams simply cause the Canucks would have massive leverage. New Jersey would have to overpay a lot to get him out unless he has a NMC which I doubt will happen


holy sh*t finally someone understands
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19 sep à 20 h 17
#9
AKA Pezzetta23
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Why should the Canucks accept this offer? It makes them considerably worse


In the short-term, yes. Which is why I said that Jim Benning might not do it, since he’s more worried about saving his job than putting the team in the best position to win a Stanley Cup.
19 sep à 22 h 23
#10
Do I look nervous
Rejoint: jun 2021
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
In the short-term, yes. Which is why I said that Jim Benning might not do it, since he’s more worried about saving his job than putting the team in the best position to win a Stanley Cup.


But putting the team in a position to win the Stanley cup is what is gonna keep him is job… where’s the logic?
20 sep à 2 h 11
#11
Judd Bracket ripoff
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
In the short-term, yes. Which is why I said that Jim Benning might not do it, since he’s more worried about saving his job than putting the team in the best position to win a Stanley Cup.


Worse in the long term as well losing Quinn. None of those pieces coming back are as good as hughes
20 sep à 8 h 05
#12
AKA Pezzetta23
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Quoting: Juiceman
But putting the team in a position to win the Stanley cup is what is gonna keep him is job… where’s the logic?


The Canucks clearly aren’t good enough to win now, and they have no cap space over the next few years to improve. This trade gets good value in return for Hughes, spreading talented young and cheap players across the lineup. Plus they free up $6 million + whatever Hughes will make to add other pieces.
20 sep à 9 h 40
#13
Do I look nervous
Rejoint: jun 2021
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The Canucks clearly aren’t good enough to win now, and they have no cap space over the next few years to improve. This trade gets good value in return for Hughes, spreading talented young and cheap players across the lineup. Plus they free up $6 million + whatever Hughes will make to add other pieces.


The only thing bad about the Canucks are their defense. They have almost a contender like forward group. I’m not sure losing our 1D and top 4 D is exactly going to help us
20 sep à 11 h 17
#14
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 815
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
In the short-term, yes. Which is why I said that Jim Benning might not do it, since he’s more worried about saving his job than putting the team in the best position to win a Stanley Cup.


every NJD post ever.... "VAN shoud except, Ty Smith is a legend" "this will make VAN better..... not right now.... but, later on.... hopefully"
Benning is not trying to save his job, he's trying to win... now. this kicks the can down the road.
VAN is in win now mode as they push for playoffs, they just double downed on that, why would they abandon that? Benning has gone all in and is not looking to kick the can even further down the road
VAN is not trading Hughes, their #1D at the very least, until true value is established.
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20 sep à 13 h 30
#15
AKA Pezzetta23
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Quoting: canucks_Fan_53
every NJD post ever.... "VAN shoud except, Ty Smith is a legend" "this will make VAN better..... not right now.... but, later on.... hopefully"
Benning is not trying to save his job, he's trying to win... now. this kicks the can down the road.
VAN is in win now mode as they push for playoffs, they just double downed on that, why would they abandon that? Benning has gone all in and is not looking to kick the can even further down the road
VAN is not trading Hughes, their #1D at the very least, until true value is established.


Exactly. The Canucks won’t do it because they’re trying to win now. I’m saying they should do it, because they aren’t good enough to win now. Without additions, the team as currently constructed cannot win a Stanley Cup. But I know that’s unrealistic, because Benning has dug himself into a hole, and has only one option to keep himself alive for any longer.
20 sep à 13 h 44
#16
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Exactly. The Canucks won’t do it because they’re trying to win now. I’m saying they should do it, because they aren’t good enough to win now. Without additions, the team as currently constructed cannot win a Stanley Cup. But I know that’s unrealistic, because Benning has dug himself into a hole, and has only one option to keep himself alive for any longer.


I think it's safe to say that Hughes is better than Smith... right now for sure, and potentially in the future as well. so how does that help VAN now or in the future?
in this trade they end up downgrading on their #1 defenseman and the other pieces and pick do not help VAN now or later.
21 sep à 1 h 45
#17
Rejoint: déc 2020
Messages: 140
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Quoting: Juiceman
Unfortunately for the Devils, if Quinn were to ever be traded, New Jersey would have to give up the most compared to other teams simply cause the Canucks would have massive leverage. New Jersey would have to overpay a lot to get him out unless he has a NMC which I doubt will happen


In a sense yes Vancouver will have leverage but I think down the line Quinn will only want to go to NJ. He can sign a bridge deal with a modified NTC. In the end I feel bad for Vancouver because if Luke was drafted by the Canucks I’d have the same fear of jack eventually leaving. I just think in the end it’ll happen but no one knows how
 
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