Semi-Accurate roster like Sakic

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	81 500 000 $	71 881 931 $	0 $	0 $	9 618 069 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Giroux, Claude 4 137 500 $4 137 500 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1	Point, Brayden 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Kucherov, Nikita 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 6
Vrána, Jakub 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ AG UFA - 3	McCann, Jared 2 940 000 $2 940 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Foligno, Marcus 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Eller, Lars 2 415 000 $2 415 000 $ C UFA - 2	Perry, Corey 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 2
Sanford, Zachary 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Perreault, Mathieu 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1
		Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pelech, Adam 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Theodore, Shea 5 200 000 $5 200 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G UFA - 3
	Dunn, Vince 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Raanta, Antti 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Ekholm, Mattias 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Whitecloud, Zach 725 000 $725 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Butcher, Will 2 822 764 $2 822 764 $ DG UFA - 1

Avantage numérique 1
Giroux, C.	Point, B.	Kucherov, N.
	Vrána, J.	Theodore, S.

Avantage numérique 2
Sanford, Z.	McCann, J.	Foligno, M.
	Perreault, M.	Dunn, V.

Infériorité numérique 1
	McCann, J.	Foligno, M.
	Pelech, A.	Whitecloud, Z.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Eller, L.	Giroux, C.
	Ekholm, M.	Dunn, V.

13 sept. 2021 à 23 h 40

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This is interesting. The defense looks like something out of a Sakic playbook. I feel the overall theme should be more about skating and speed. If you look at his acquisitions - especially toews, burakovsky, girard, donskoi - and draft picks - Makar, Byram, Jost, Newhook, etc. - there is a big focus on skating ability. Obviously he had found some complementary players for the right trade costs (graves, nichushkin, kadri) who aren't standout skaters, and they fit in well to balance things out, but the impact guys are all masters on edges and speedsters (aside from the big man Rantanen)

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14 sept. 2021 à 0 h 6

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Quoting: A_K

This is interesting. The defense looks like something out of a Sakic playbook. I feel the overall theme should be more about skating and speed. If you look at his acquisitions - especially toews, burakovsky, girard, donskoi - and draft picks - Makar, Byram, Jost, Newhook, etc. - there is a big focus on skating ability. Obviously he had found some complementary players for the right trade costs (graves, nichushkin, kadri) who aren't standout skaters, and they fit in well to balance things out, but the impact guys are all masters on edges and speedsters (aside from the big man Rantanen)

Yeah you're right. I was looking all over the place for ranks of speed, outside of the obvious ones, but they are difficult to find. Eventually, I just started to find pieces that fit with the scheme he has put together. I love Sakic as a GM, because he is able to find these speedsters and put them to use better than a lot of the old-school guys like Lou or Holland. they take a guy like Barzal and put him next to Matt Martin or Anders Lee. It works for Lou because of the playstyle, but it won't work as the rest of the teams increase in speed, as we've seen whenever they play Tampa.

14 sept. 2021 à 1 h 31

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Quoting: JackAce91

Yeah you're right. I was looking all over the place for ranks of speed, outside of the obvious ones, but they are difficult to find. Eventually, I just started to find pieces that fit with the scheme he has put together. I love Sakic as a GM, because he is able to find these speedsters and put them to use better than a lot of the old-school guys like Lou or Holland. they take a guy like Barzal and put him next to Matt Martin or Anders Lee. It works for Lou because of the playstyle, but it won't work as the rest of the teams increase in speed, as we've seen whenever they play Tampa.

Barzal would thrive in colorado. But tbh if we played the same style as tampa using our speed but staying physical we would win. I dont think its how lou builds the team i think its that trotz doesnt know how to really use the speed that we do have. Like why beauvillier hasnt played on the same line as barzal since trotz came is mind boggling.

14 sept. 2021 à 10 h 46

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Barzal would thrive in colorado. But tbh if we played the same style as tampa using our speed but staying physical we would win. I dont think its how lou builds the team i think its that trotz doesnt know how to really use the speed that we do have. Like why beauvillier hasnt played on the same line as barzal since trotz came is mind boggling.

Yeah I get what Trotz is doing and I think it is almost the best strategy for the Islanders, but it does need a bit of a shake up. From what I have seen, Barzals line is primary point production playing a lot more of an aggressive offensive game, while every other line plays almost full defense just keeping the opponent to the outside. But I think why it's not really working is that BArzal is one of the fastest guys in the league, but A, his linemates are slow, and B, Trotz has him dumping and chasing more than he should. If Trotz and Lou developed a sturdy top six of people who are faster and can play some better offense, the team would have won a cup by now. I'm not a fan of them, but I can respect it.

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14 sept. 2021 à 11 h 50

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Yeah I get what Trotz is doing and I think it is almost the best strategy for the Islanders, but it does need a bit of a shake up. From what I have seen, Barzals line is primary point production playing a lot more of an aggressive offensive game, while every other line plays almost full defense just keeping the opponent to the outside. But I think why it's not really working is that BArzal is one of the fastest guys in the league, but A, his linemates are slow, and B, Trotz has him dumping and chasing more than he should. If Trotz and Lou developed a sturdy top six of people who are faster and can play some better offense, the team would have won a cup by now. I'm not a fan of them, but I can respect it.

Yeah look at how tampa did it. Thats the perfect way to do it, and we have the personell to do that. Just trotz has his way and thats the only way. He wont tweak it if its not working (which it has been working im just saying).

15 sept. 2021 à 12 h 25

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Yeah look at how tampa did it. Thats the perfect way to do it, and we have the personell to do that. Just trotz has his way and thats the only way. He wont tweak it if its not working (which it has been working im just saying).

I think you're right about that. His methods work, but the only way the team improves is with upgrading the pieces he works with instead of tweaking the system around what he has.

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15 sept. 2021 à 12 h 27

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Quoting: JackAce91

I think you're right about that. His methods work, but the only way the team improves is with upgrading the pieces he works with instead of tweaking the system around what he has.

Now im hoping lou did enough and i think we will trade for a LD2 but trotz doesnt like you said tweak it to fit his players. And that stubborness (its not just the system but playing certain guys and so on) is his single big problem. If he was a little more flexible he would easily be the best coach in the league.

15 sept. 2021 à 15 h 39

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Quoting: JackAce91

Yeah you're right. I was looking all over the place for ranks of speed, outside of the obvious ones, but they are difficult to find. Eventually, I just started to find pieces that fit with the scheme he has put together. I love Sakic as a GM, because he is able to find these speedsters and put them to use better than a lot of the old-school guys like Lou or Holland. they take a guy like Barzal and put him next to Matt Martin or Anders Lee. It works for Lou because of the playstyle, but it won't work as the rest of the teams increase in speed, as we've seen whenever they play Tampa.

Quoting: JackAce91

Yeah I get what Trotz is doing and I think it is almost the best strategy for the Islanders, but it does need a bit of a shake up. From what I have seen, Barzals line is primary point production playing a lot more of an aggressive offensive game, while every other line plays almost full defense just keeping the opponent to the outside. But I think why it's not really working is that BArzal is one of the fastest guys in the league, but A, his linemates are slow, and B, Trotz has him dumping and chasing more than he should. If Trotz and Lou developed a sturdy top six of people who are faster and can play some better offense, the team would have won a cup by now. I'm not a fan of them, but I can respect it.

Lee plays with Barzal because he’s a 1st line caliber player who can score goals at a high rate. Barzal’s RW last season was Eberle, who was a very good skater and was able to drive play at an elite level. Before Lee’s injury they were a top 5 line in the NHL. Barzal doesn’t need players who are fast, he needs players who can think fast and finish. The one problem with Trotz is that he does not know how to adapt to injuries, if everyone is healthy he’s pretty good with lineup construction, but if a top a top 6 player goes down with an injury he moves a bottom 6 grinder to the top 6. If Trotz played Oliver Wahlstrom with Barzal instead of Komarov the isles likely beat the lightning and win the cup.

Also Barzal rarely dumps the puck in - he has the freedom to enter the ozone with possession.

15 sept. 2021 à 15 h 59

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Lee plays with Barzal because he’s a 1st line caliber player who can score goals at a high rate. Barzal’s RW last season was Eberle, who was a very good skater and was able to drive play at an elite level. Before Lee’s injury they were a top 5 line in the NHL. Barzal doesn’t need players who are fast, he needs players who can think fast and finish. The one problem with Trotz is that he does not know how to adapt to injuries, if everyone is healthy he’s pretty good with lineup construction, but if a top a top 6 player goes down with an injury he moves a bottom 6 grinder to the top 6. If Trotz played Oliver Wahlstrom with Barzal instead of Komarov the isles likely beat the lightning and win the cup.

Also Barzal rarely dumps the puck in - he has the freedom to enter the ozone with possession.

That's what I was getting at. I just couldn't remember Komarov's name. Seemed like he and Barzal played together so much this season that it was the actual line.

15 sept. 2021 à 16 h 7

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Quoting: JackAce91

That's what I was getting at. I just couldn't remember Komarov's name. Seemed like he and Barzal played together so much this season that it was the actual line.

Yeah because Lee suffered a season ending injury. Lee was on pace for 36 goals and his offensive analytics were elite. Replacing him with Komarov cost them but the media won’t criticize Trotz because he’s seen like a god-like figure. Trotz had better options but he’s stubborn to a fault.

17 sept. 2021 à 20 h 33

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Yeah because Lee suffered a season ending injury. Lee was on pace for 36 goals and his offensive analytics were elite. Replacing him with Komarov cost them but the media won’t criticize Trotz because he’s seen like a god-like figure. Trotz had better options but he’s stubborn to a fault.

I'm a big fan of Trotz since his days in Washington. But you're right. The primary system he set up is elite and can make any average team good, as we've seen. But he can't adapt his system to injuries.

17 sept. 2021 à 20 h 44

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I'm a big fan of Trotz since his days in Washington. But you're right. The primary system he set up is elite and can make any average team good, as we've seen. But he can't adapt his system to injuries.

He’s a very good coach but he’s also riding the aging curve of the isles young stars (Barzal, Beauvillier, Pelech, Pulock). Barzal was already a star when Trotz arrived but Beauvillier has emerged as a high end two way top 6 winger and Pelech/Pulock are arguably the best D pairing in the league. Trotz system is good but he gets too much credit IMO.

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