Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
What makes Stone a more complete player? He is less offensive and only his reputation defensively is more impactful than the actual play. Marner's defence was terrific last year. Same with Matthews but they do not have the public reputation so it gets ignored. 90% of what fans say is just mob think. And in this specific conversation their is a huge anti leaf bias. It just can't be denied. Half of fans on here want Marner to be a bad contract so they manufacture nonsense arguments. A 24 year old 100 point player, (what marner would have had over 82 games) isn't overpaid. Getting 100 points in a season is so incredibly rare. Pastrnak, Marchand, Stone, etc etc all haven't done that. Own the bias at least.
Oh boy. Okay, since we’re talking bias. Let’s go over a couple things here. Marner has never played at a 100 point pace. He’s been incredibly close, but his best point per game season (this past year) is a 99 point pace. Now you say Pastrnak, stone, and Marchand haven’t done that….and you’re right about stone. Pastrnak had a 70 game line of 48-47-95 in the season that covid shut down. Thats a 56 goal, 111 point pace. Which is, you know, better than 99. Marchand played at a 106 point pace this past season (also better than 99), but what’s more, he’s actually had 100 points in a season. He was also at a pace north of 100 points when covid shut things down. Soooo with your pace mumbo jumbo, that would be three consecutive seasons at that 100+ point rate. Marner is really good defensively. I don’t think there’s a soul outside of toronto that would say he’s better defensively than marchand.
So in a nut shell, what you just said that was marner is better than a few guys because he achieved something that those other guys didnt….even though marner hasn’t achieved it, and those other guys have. Cmon man. Be better.
But the overall point here, just stop with the defensive nonsense. People are allowed to disagree with you. When you say half the fans are trying to manufacture arguments for leafs having bad contracts…like it’s some goddamn conspiracy theory, you sound crazy, and very, very defensive. Maybe those people are just using logic, not seeing success, and thus thinking that these guys that are paid at the top of the market, while not performing at the top of the market have bad deals. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?