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Créé par: Bias_it_self
Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 5 sept. 2021
Publié: 5 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Devils deal isn't anything serious, just want to hear what devil fans would be comfortable moving for Meier.

Labanc's production is similar to Dvorak, he's 1 year younger, and has salary retained so I think this trade would work.

Hertl trade is a rental move.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Khusnutdinov, Marat [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
2.
SJS
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Similar to Dvorak deal + a 3rd for salary retention.
NYI
  1. Labanc, Kevin (2 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Sending Labanc back home with a chance to play with Barzal
3.
NJD
  1. Meier, Timo (3 000 000 $ retained)
4.
SJS
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Cogliano, Andrew (500 000 $ retained)
5.
SJS
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2181 500 000 $56 081 667 $0 $1 275 000 $25 418 333 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
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2 175 000 $2 175 000 $
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796 667 $796 667 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
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UFA - 5
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
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5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 37
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We have no interest in labanc. We either want a legit
1st liner/star to play with barzal or we will go with the guys we have. The amount of top 6/2nd liners we have already bailey, palmieri, beauvillier makes us completely uninterested in KL.
(Also considering our lack of 1st round picks recently, it would take a hell of a lot to get our 1st round pick this year).
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5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 41
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
We have no interest in labanc. We either want a legit
1st liner/star to play with barzal or we will go with the guys we have. The amount of top 6/2nd liners we have already bailey, palmieri, beauvillier makes us completely uninterested in KL.
(Also considering our lack of 1st round picks recently, it would take a hell of a lot to get our 1st round pick this year).


That's fair. Any idea where it would be a good fit for him?
5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 45
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Rangers, bruins, habs maybe will all pitch in better offers for hertl than that
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5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 46
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Why does Lebanc get more than Hertl? I think you could get more for Hertl… but less for Lebanc.
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5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 46
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If only there were a way Sharks could retain on Meier's QO in 2023-24.
That $10 million is still an albatross.

So if Meier is dealt, maybe best that its done once he inks an extension (earliest would be July 1, 2022).
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5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: Bias_it_self
That's fair. Any idea where it would be a good fit for him?


So 2 things.
1. Take out the 3rd. The way i see it is retention (2m×3) = 2nd rounder, and labanc at 3×2.75 equals a 1st. Hes not as good defensively as dvorak and hes also a winger as opposed to a center.
2. A team that might have interest would be COL. But idk if they would move another 1st. I could see CHI having interest as they need a RW2 and are facing a cap crunch, but like COL idk if they would be interested in moving another 1st. I could potentially see TOR having interest and moving nylander to LW but that doesnt seem like a great fit. EDM could be a good one depending on if they can move out some cap (idk how they value kassian). And maybe OTT though i think id have a hard time believing theyd move their 1st for him.
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5 sept. 2021 à 19 h 59
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
If only there were a way Sharks could retain on Meier's QO in 2023-24.
That $10 million is still an albatross.

So if Meier is dealt, maybe best that its done once he inks an extension (earliest would be July 1, 2022).


His QO is 10 millions !!!! How?
5 sept. 2021 à 20 h 3
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Why does Lebanc get more than Hertl? I think you could get more for Hertl… but less for Lebanc.


In a word?

Term...

If Hertl came with an extension it's a different story. But Lebanc comes with a relatively cheap contract and isn't a UFA until 2024. Conversely, Hertl costs more, is an UFA after this year and is due a moderate raise.

Lebanc is also being retained here though, so.
5 sept. 2021 à 20 h 49
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Labanc has more value than Meier?
5 sept. 2021 à 23 h 42
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Rangers, bruins, habs maybe will all pitch in better offers for hertl than that

I wanted to make a mock trade for Khusnutdinov. The first is also more likely to be in the 15-25 range as well.
6 sept. 2021 à 3 h 12
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Quoting: Marchy
His QO is 10 millions !!!! How?


I dont know a smart GM would get an extension done so the QO is not an issue
6 sept. 2021 à 9 h 26
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Quoting: RazWild
In a word?

Term...

If Hertl came with an extension it's a different story. But Lebanc comes with a relatively cheap contract and isn't a UFA until 2024. Conversely, Hertl costs more, is an UFA after this year and is due a moderate raise.

Lebanc is also being retained here though, so.


Hertl is still worth more. He is a top 6 C and a 1c on many teams.
6 sept. 2021 à 9 h 38
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Quoting: Marchy
His QO is 10 millions !!!! How?


Back loaded contract. QO used to be based on final year salary. It isn't anymore, but Meier is grandfathered because his contract was in place before the rule was changed.
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 58
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Back loaded contract. QO used to be based on final year salary. It isn't anymore, but Meier is grandfathered because his contract was in place before the rule was changed.

Damn… that’s a lot he’s 1000% not tendered
6 sept. 2021 à 17 h 16
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Damn… that’s a lot he’s 1000% not tendered


The idea is that he has leverage in his next negotiation. Give me what I want ($8M x 8 years for example), let me go to UFA, or pay me $10M a year until I go UFA anyway.

They'll either come to terms at a lower price or try to trade him to a team he'll agree to extend with. Either way he has a lot of control.
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6 sept. 2021 à 17 h 20
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Would you accept Faksa, Dellandrea and a 2022 1st for Hertl 50% retained at the deadline?

Hertl won’t resign with us because we don’t have the cap next year.
6 sept. 2021 à 18 h 10
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Would you accept Faksa, Dellandrea and a 2022 1st for Hertl 50% retained at the deadline?

Hertl won’t resign with us because we don’t have the cap next year.


That would be far from what the sharks want/will get and need. Faksa is 27 and wont grow much more, Dellandrea is arguably a bust, and that 2022 1st will be around 20-25
6 sept. 2021 à 18 h 12
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That would be far from what the sharks want/will get and need. Faksa is 27 and wont grow much more, Dellandrea is arguably a bust, and that 2022 1st will be around 20-25


If you think a 21 year old kid who plays in the NHL is a bust than it’s obvious that we no longer need to have this conversation.
6 sept. 2021 à 18 h 19
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If you think a 21 year old kid who plays in the NHL is a bust than it’s obvious that we no longer need to have this conversation.


He didn't do very well with the amount of ice time he was given due to other player's injuries. Maybe he's a late bloomer, but the sharks wouldn't want to take the chance imo.
 
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