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Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2021
Publié: 31 août 2021
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if anything i think buffalo would want two first thats not the offers i would give but those are what they would be intreasted in plus more lower tier prospects.
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BUF
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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A proscpect
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2nd or 3rd
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BUF
  1. Guhle, Kaiden
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. Tuch, Luke [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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not all those prospect just those are the choices imo that are the best
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    31 août 2021 à 15 h 5
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    Sabres easily decline all 3. Boston doesn't have the prospect quality to acquire Eichel. Montreal would have to cough up Caufield imo (which of course they won't do). Buffalo isn't interested in 3 D prospects from the NYR when we have Power, Samuelsson, Johnson, Laaksonen in the pipeline
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    31 août 2021 à 15 h 16
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    Quoting: Skyraider112
    Sabres easily decline all 3. Boston doesn't have the prospect quality to acquire Eichel. Montreal would have to cough up Caufield imo (which of course they won't do). Buffalo isn't interested in 3 D prospects from the NYR when we have Power, Samuelsson, Johnson, Laaksonen in the pipeline


    LOL. Drury would hang up before Adams could finish the trade offer. Buffalo fans are delusional.
    31 août 2021 à 15 h 17
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    Quoting: Skyraider112
    Sabres easily decline all 3. Boston doesn't have the prospect quality to acquire Eichel. Montreal would have to cough up Caufield imo (which of course they won't do). Buffalo isn't interested in 3 D prospects from the NYR when we have Power, Samuelsson, Johnson, Laaksonen in the pipeline


    Bud when will you realize that it probably is the most you’ll get for Eichel…. Even if he’s worth more the injury the fact that he wants out of this dumpster fire and the horrible handle of the case by Buffalo makes his value decrease A LOT
    31 août 2021 à 15 h 22
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    Quoting: Skyraider112
    Sabres easily decline all 3. Boston doesn't have the prospect quality to acquire Eichel. Montreal would have to cough up Caufield imo (which of course they won't do). Buffalo isn't interested in 3 D prospects from the NYR when we have Power, Samuelsson, Johnson, Laaksonen in the pipeline


    Dude, cmon. These are all very very fair, bordering on buffalo getting better than their asking price.

    The four first round value just isn’t there. If it was, he would have been moved by now. The neck scares teams, and now cap space is such an issue. All three offers are likely significantly better than buffalo is going to get, unless they’re retaining or taking back bad contracts.
    31 août 2021 à 17 h 19
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    Dude, cmon. These are all very very fair, bordering on buffalo getting better than their asking price.

    The four first round value just isn’t there. If it was, he would have been moved by now. The neck scares teams, and now cap space is such an issue. All three offers are likely significantly better than buffalo is going to get, unless they’re retaining or taking back bad contracts.


    Then watch buffalo not trade him.
    If this is what buffalo was willing to accept he would be gone.
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    31 août 2021 à 19 h 46
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    Then watch buffalo not trade him.
    If this is what buffalo was willing to accept he would be gone.


    Temper your expectations a smidge. No one has offered that or close to it. If buffalo doesn’t trade him now (very hard to do), his NMC will kick in, and just wait and see how hard it is to trade him then. The Sabres have butchered this beyond belief, and it’s going to really effect their return.
    31 août 2021 à 20 h 55
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    LOL. Drury would hang up before Adams could finish the trade offer. Buffalo fans are delusional.


    The value is there, but its not the right value for Buffalo.
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    31 août 2021 à 21 h 53
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    Quoting: Skyraider112
    The value is there, but its not the right value for Buffalo.


    Way..........way...............WAY too much value given up for an INJURED Jack Eichel. Way too much. KEEP HIM.
    1 sept. 2021 à 16 h 17
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    Quoting: Skyraider112
    Sabres easily decline all 3. Boston doesn't have the prospect quality to acquire Eichel. Montreal would have to cough up Caufield imo (which of course they won't do). Buffalo isn't interested in 3 D prospects from the NYR when we have Power, Samuelsson, Johnson, Laaksonen in the pipeline


    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    Then watch buffalo not trade him.
    If this is what buffalo was willing to accept he would be gone.


    There is no sense in discussing this with ACMG who have their mind made up.
    First, of all the offers are Two "B" prospects and two late first round picks.
    The first round picks will produce players four or five years into the future.
    Dahlin's contract will be half over by then, Olofsson will be 30,
    Second, this post lists three teams interested in Jack, I think other serious contenders are Calgary, Vegas and Seattle.
    Montreal is desperate, they just lost two centers, made it to the finals and are now facing a year in a very tough division that instead of finals they may only be ahead of Buffalo and Detroit with out Jack.
    Boston will not have Rask at the beginning of the season and appears to be ready to try a different #2 center other than DK.
    The Rangers with Jack have a scary line up and could easily challenge for first place.

    All of the GM's know a herniated disc while it is painful, is not a career ending injury, especially when the player skated unassisted off of the ice.
    I cringe when I see it described as a broken neck as if Jack may never walk again.
    Those are all weak offers.
    The Rangers is the strongest as it has three decent prospects, and a third pick.
    Schneider and Lundkvist could be in the NHL soon if the Sabres were not loaded with defensemen.
    Boston's is the weakest and Montreal is not much better.

    When I see really poor offers I stay out of it, but the creator of this one should see that by indicating three teams that are interested is indicating that there will be a bidding competition, driving up the price.
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    2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 58
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    Temper your expectations a smidge. No one has offered that or close to it. If buffalo doesn’t trade him now (very hard to do), his NMC will kick in, and just wait and see how hard it is to trade him then. The Sabres have butchered this beyond belief, and it’s going to really effect their return.


    I think you have grossly misinterpreted the NMC situation. Sure eichel can say no he won't go to X team. But his alternative would be to stay in Buffalo. So his NMC really has no effect. If he wants out he will take it a trade somewhere else. If not then he can stay in buffalo for the duration of his contract.
    Buffalo holds all the cards and I think it's funny to see people think otherwise.
    The amount of lowball offers make me think that I would rather get nothing in return for eichel in 5 years than to help another team win a cup with buffalo's best player for pennies on the dollar
    2 sept. 2021 à 9 h 1
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    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    I think you have grossly misinterpreted the NMC situation. Sure eichel can say no he won't go to X team. But his alternative would be to stay in Buffalo. So his NMC really has no effect. If he wants out he will take it a trade somewhere else. If not then he can stay in buffalo for the duration of his contract.
    Buffalo holds all the cards and I think it's funny to see people think otherwise.
    The amount of lowball offers make me think that I would rather get nothing in return for eichel in 5 years than to help another team win a cup with buffalo's best player for pennies on the dollar


    What cards do they hold? On paper, kind of a lot. This just isn’t how the NHL works though. Teams don’t want unhappy players. Then there’s the whole issue of jack being way more valuable in trade than he is to the team. That team is awful. What value does he present? They won’t be good under his contract.

    Buffalo has zero cards practically speaking. They have to move him, and they have to move him now. If they don’t they have to move him next year to where jack wants to go. Can’t wait until he’s moved for a 1st, 3rd, and a cap dump next off season. Man the Sabres botched this.
    2 sept. 2021 à 12 h 39
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    What cards do they hold? On paper, kind of a lot. This just isn’t how the NHL works though. Teams don’t want unhappy players. Then there’s the whole issue of jack being way more valuable in trade than he is to the team. That team is awful. What value does he present? They won’t be good under his contract.

    Buffalo has zero cards practically speaking. They have to move him, and they have to move him now. If they don’t they have to move him next year to where jack wants to go. Can’t wait until he’s moved for a 1st, 3rd, and a cap dump next off season. Man the Sabres botched this.


    I guess I just grossly disagree. Jack wants to be moved sabres want to move him for his worth.

    There is more worth to not trade him and not play him than to trade him for 1-2 late Firsts and 1-2 B prospects.

    I wouldn't let him make another team a cup Contender for nothing. The trade better hurt the other team.
    2 sept. 2021 à 12 h 39
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    What cards do they hold? On paper, kind of a lot. This just isn’t how the NHL works though. Teams don’t want unhappy players. Then there’s the whole issue of jack being way more valuable in trade than he is to the team. That team is awful. What value does he present? They won’t be good under his contract.

    Buffalo has zero cards practically speaking. They have to move him, and they have to move him now. If they don’t they have to move him next year to where jack wants to go. Can’t wait until he’s moved for a 1st, 3rd, and a cap dump next off season. Man the Sabres botched this.


    I guess I just grossly disagree. Jack wants to be moved sabres want to move him for his worth.

    There is more worth to not trade him and not play him than to trade him for 1-2 late Firsts and 1-2 B prospects.

    I wouldn't let him make another team a cup Contender for nothing. The trade better hurt the other team.
    2 sept. 2021 à 12 h 59
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    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    I guess I just grossly disagree. Jack wants to be moved sabres want to move him for his worth.

    There is more worth to not trade him and not play him than to trade him for 1-2 late Firsts and 1-2 B prospects.

    I wouldn't let him make another team a cup Contender for nothing. The trade better hurt the other team.


    There’s a difference between nothing, and asking for the moon. It will fall somewhere in between.

    This isn’t a vacuum. The Sabres have destroyed this situation. They can’t just hope to mend things. It will create a toxic environment, and that’s something NHL organizations really care about. The more time goes by, the less they’ll get for them, and they know they have to move him.
     
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