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Match 2022-23

Créé par: Shanesaw9
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2021
Publié: 31 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If you believe KK is your future 1B C then match the offersheet... it sucks but MTL can still make it work. If you don't believe that then let him walk. This is what it could look like if the Canadiens match.

ASSUMPTIONS:
- KK shows good progression in his 21 year old season (40 - 50 pts playing 2nd line with Hoffman and Gallagher).
- KK is willing to sign a reasonable 8 year extension knowing that he got a pretty good pay day from the offersheet.
- The cap increases to $82.5M as reported.

Step 1. Match the offersheet.
- MTL can do this without issue once Weber is placed on LTIR.

Step 2. Trade Byron
- Byron is the most logical player to dump... they don't technically need the money until next season but if he's traded now for a player with a lower cap hit it would provide MTL a little more space for 2021-22... they're gonna need it to avoid bonus overages.

Step 3. Trade Lehkonen
- No cap space to retain his services, recoup a draft pick which was used to dump Byron... essentially the same as letting Lehkonen and Byron walk away.

Step 4. Sign Suzuki
- Do this BEFORE offersheets are a possibility and before you make an offer to KK. This is the same as Couturier and Svechnikov deals with a little extra for inflation (assuming the cap rises again).

Step 5. Sign KK
- An 8 year × $6.25M would be a small raise over what he is owed from his qualifying offer while guaranteeing him long term security. He might be worth more than $6.25M towards the end of the contract but he isn't worth $6M now or at the start of the contract so it all works out in the end.

Step 6. UFA's
- Habs will have to let Chiarot walk (maybe he already gets traded at the TDL if habs are out of the playoffs). Give Romanov his salary for 4 years and when that deal expires he will still be an RFA and MTL will know what his ceiling is (Price's deal will also expire by then so they will have lots of cap space). Replace Chairot internally and sign a cheap UFA... Habs have Brook, Guhle, Harris, Fairbrother all on ELC's who will be fighting for a spot but I'd rather not go over with cap with performance bonuses that would cost them when they need to sign Caufield the following year. Signed Big Z (assuming he is still playing) because that would be hilarious and somehow perfect for the type of D they would want on the 3rd pair in MTL, Ouellet is another cheap option... all in all there should be 6 players who could potentially replace Chiarot's roster spot. Brought Paquette back on a relatively cheap deal, but this spot could go to anyone from Laval as well (Teasdale, Harvey-Pinard, etc.).

Step 8. RFA's
- Already touched on Romanov, the only other notable ones are Evans and Primeau. Signed Evans to a one year deal at a reasonable price (assuming he plays bottom 6 all year), he will still be RFA when it expires as will Poehling, by then MTL can decide who their long term 3C will be. Gave Primeau a 3 year league minimum deal, with the caveat that every year is a one way so he gets more money in the first year where he'd be playing in the AHL on a 2 way deal.

Step 9. Plan for Next Year
- The big ticket is obviously Caufield. Drouin's deal will expire so they will gain a bunch of $$$ from that, plus there are several good options for MTL to trade: If Guhle and Harris impress, Savard or Edmundson could be moved, any winger could be moved (it would make sense to trade a RW, Gallagher ideally IMO). Allen can be replaced by Primeau freeing up another $2M, and the cap should rise again... so all in all there's ~$8.5M for Caufield without making any trades assuming Drouin is replaced by an ELC.


In summary, Carolina really screwed up MTL's cap situation short term, but they can get through this. Thankfully MTL will have no shortage of prospects coming up to help this core down the road.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3875 000 $
3900 000 $
3800 000 $
3750 000 $
3750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
86 250 000 $
87 875 000 $
43 500 000 $
12 250 000 $
3750 000 $
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1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Matched, take the L for 2021-22 and then sign him long term.
CAR
2.
MTL
    Antoine Roussel
    ARI
    1. Byron, Paul
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
    Détails additionnels:
    Trade takes place in 2021-22 (ie Now). Byron can still play and he is on LTIR until January (that would be insured $$$). MTL takes back Roussel, so year one is essentially a wash. Roussel is buried in the minors and provides $400k more cap space than Byron for MTL to run a 22 man roster.

    Year 2 is where ARZ reviews a 3rd round pick (ANA so a high 3rd round pick) as compensation for taking Byron's contract.

    MTL could just wait and do this deal in 2022-23 but it makes sense to just do it now and just get it done with. If Byron recovers as expected ARZ could likely retain salary and flip him for another pick.
    3.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    MTL can't afford him at his qualifying offer, so they should trade him, this can be any team just chose ARZ because the other deal already puts them in the thumbnail.
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2182 500 000 $74 349 583 $1 132 500 $932 500 $8 150 417 $

    Formation

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    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    875 000 $875 000 $
    DG/DD
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    859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DG
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    DG
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    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    31 août 2021 à 12 h 11
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    Very well laid out, the caveat of course is MB not being a moron again and locking in his RFA's before they can be OS'ed
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    31 août 2021 à 12 h 12
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    My suggestion would be to sign KK during the season for under 6m, instead of qualifying him at that crazy number after the season. Rumour is if he comes to the Canes, that they would extend him for around 4mil instead of waiting for the offseason. (Thats only if he wants to be in Carolina)
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    31 août 2021 à 12 h 13
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    I agree with your above analysis but Byron won't be trade as you mentioned he is a Cap Dump...
    KK ext need to be as reported by the Canes at a lower cap hit like 4y x 4,8M (6,1M/6,1m/ 3,5M/3,5M) AAV= Around 4,8M.
    For the rest great explanation
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    31 août 2021 à 12 h 18
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    Quoting: jslongo
    My suggestion would be to sign KK during the season for under 6m, instead of qualifying him at that crazy number after the season. Rumour is if he comes to the Canes, that they would extend him for around 4mil instead of waiting for the offseason. (Thats only if he wants to be in Carolina)


    Why would KK agree to that? He can just get $6.1M if he wants for his Qualifying Offer, he could hope someone gives him another offersheet, or he could hope MTL/CAR doesn't give him a Qualifying Offer and then he can take best offer available or go to any team he wants.

    KK already has short term money guaranteed, so the only thing a team can offer him that would entice him to sign is long term security.

    The rumour that KK will sign for less on his next deal has absolutely no merit. There is no binding agreement that KK has to do that (if there was that would be circumventing the offer sheet rules). Sure there could be an understanding between KK and CAR, but I find it hard to believe the guy that just signed a $6.1M offersheet when he was projected to get $1.6M on a one year deal wouldn't again look for the best offer available through all the possibilities mentioned in the first para6of this reply.
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    Quoting: DomCholette
    I agree with your above analysis but Byron won't be trade as you mentioned he is a Cap Dump...
    KK ext need to be as reported by the Canes at a lower cap hit like 4y x 4,8M (6,1M/6,1m/ 3,5M/3,5M) AAV= Around 4,8M.
    For the rest great explanation


    "Byron is a cap dump" ... yeah thats why I took a bad contract back and gave them a high 3rd round pick, and Byron can actually still play look at the goals he scored in playoffs for MTL all highlight reel big goals.

    There is no "reported extension" that's a rumour and an absurd one. Through the CBA, KK is guaranteed $6.1M through his qualifying offer (minimum $5.25M through an arbitrator). Having a documented legal extension in place at this stage would go directly against the CBA rules, and there is no reason for KK to have/honour a handshake agreement (he has all the negotiating power $6.1M qualifying offer which CAR must submit or he becomes a UFA or he could sign another offersheet if he wanted to.

    This idea that KK will take less money on an extension is ridiculous... it's founded under the assumption that the only reason he got the 1 yr $6.1M offersheet was because an extension was already agreed to which would not be allowed under the CBA. KK can sign any deal he wants after this one, so why would he take less than he is owed?
    31 août 2021 à 12 h 25
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    Why would KK agree to that? He can just get $6.1M if he wants for his Qualifying Offer, he could hope someone gives him another offersheet, or he could hope MTL/CAR doesn't give him a Qualifying Offer and then he can take best offer available or go to any team he wants.

    KK already has short term money guaranteed, so the only thing a team can offer him that would entice him to sign is long term security.

    The rumour that KK will sign for less on his next deal has absolutely no merit. There is no binding agreement that KK has to do that (if there was that would be circumventing the offer sheet rules). Sure there could be an understanding between KK and CAR, but I find it hard to believe the guy that just signed a $6.1M offersheet when he was projected to get $1.6M on a one year deal wouldn't again look for the best offer available through all the possibilities mentioned in the first para6of this reply.


    Let me ask you this. Would you rather take a 4-5m x 5-6year contract? Or a team qualify you for 6.1 for 1 year again?

    KK would be smart to jump on a contract with a little term
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    31 août 2021 à 12 h 27
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    "Byron is a cap dump" ... yeah thats why I took a bad contract back and gave them a high 3rd round pick, and Byron can actually still play look at the goals he scored in playoffs for MTL all highlight reel big goals.

    There is no "reported extension" that's a rumour and an absurd one. Through the CBA, KK is guaranteed $6.1M through his qualifying offer (minimum $5.25M through an arbitrator). Having a documented legal extension in place at this stage would go directly against the CBA rules, and there is no reason for KK to have a handshake agreement (he has all the negotiating power $6.1M qualifying offer which CAR must submit or he becomes a UFA or he could sign another offersheet if he wanted to.

    This idea that KK will take less money on an extension is ridiculous... it's founded under the assumption that the only reason he got the 1 yr $6.1M offersheet was because an extension was already agreed to which would not be allowed under the CBA. KK can sign any deal he wants after this one, so why would he take less than he is owed?


    Ill bet my bank account Kk doesnt make a dime over 6m after next season
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    31 août 2021 à 12 h 32
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    Quoting: jslongo
    Let me ask you this. Would you rather take a 4-5m x 5-6year contract? Or a team qualify you for 6.1 for 1 year again?

    KK would be smart to jump on a contract with a little term


    $4-5M × 5 to 6 years would be buying 2 to 3 UFA years... I'm sure KK feels he can get more than that as a UFA, and he already knows for a fact that he can get more than that as an RFA so why would he under sell himself and give a team control of his UFA years like that?

    Quoting: jslongo
    Ill bet my bank account Kk doesnt make a dime over 6m after next season

    I'll find this next year... for the record it depends on KK's performance, if he puts up 40 to 50 pts s a 21 year old then he proves he is progressing as expected and he's worth the investment. If he fails, we'll then no one is going to take a chance on him again and whatever team he is with will cut ties or take him to arbitration to get his qualifying offer reduced.
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    $4-5M × 5 to 6 years would be buying 2 to 3 UFA years... I'm sure KK feels he can get more than that as a UFA, and he already knows for a fact that he can get more than that as an RFA so why would he under sell himself and give a team control of his UFA years like that?


    Maybe I can explain in simpler terms. If KK gets qualified as a RFA, he can get 1 year at 6m, with the possibility of having a horrible season. Then hes screwed. Signing a 5m contract with term, gives KK guaranteed money + time to improve his game, which will get him paid EVEN MORE after the contract is up.
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    If he fails, we'll then no one is going to take a chance on him again and whatever team he is with will cut ties or take him to arbitration to get his qualifying offer reduced.


    Thats why it would be extremely smart for him to take a contract with term! jeez
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    Quoting: jslongo
    Maybe I can explain in simpler terms. If KK gets qualified as a RFA, he can get 1 year at 6m, with the possibility of having a horrible season. Then hes screwed. Signing a 5m contract with term, gives KK guaranteed money + time to improve his game, which will get him paid EVEN MORE after the contract is up.


    It depends on what kind of season he has next year, I specifically put in the title that the assumption I am making is KK progresses and puts up 40-50 pts... that would be a good season for a 21 year old, a good enough season that KK would absolutely be comfortable betting on himself on another 1 year $6.1M or he'd earn a long term contract (buying UFA years so obviously he's not taking a pay cut there.)

    You are assuming KK has a poor season, in which case yes he would take a pay cut for long term security... but how often do young players not bet on themselves?

    At least with my projections, I've stated my assumptions... you are just straight up projecting will take a pay cut because it's already agreed regardless of his performance, that's just naive.

    Quoting: jslongo
    Thats why it would be extremely smart for him to take a contract with term! jeez


    State your assumptions! Jeez

    Youre assuming he will fail, I'm assuming he won't... I stated this from the get go in the team description, you argued in the comments how I should sign him to lesser deal (without saying that you are assuming he will not have a good year and therefore he will be open to a more secure deal).
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    It depends on what kind of season he has next year, I specifically put in the title that the assumption I am making is KK progresses and puts up 40-50 pts... that would be a good season for a 21 year old, a good enough season that KK would absolutely be comfortable betting on himself on another 1 year $6.1M or he'd earn a long term contract (buying UFA years so obviously he's not taking a pay cut there.)

    You are assuming KK has a poor season, in which case yes he would take a pay cut for long term security... but how often do young players not bet on themselves?

    At least with my projections, I've stated my assumptions... you are just straight up projecting will take a pay cut because it's already agreed regardless of his performance, that's just naive.



    State your assumptions! Jeez

    Youre assuming he will fail, I'm assuming he won't... I stated this from the get go in the team description, you argued in the comments how I should sign him to lesser deal (without saying that you are assuming he will not have a good year and therefore he will be open to a more secure deal).


    lmao ill come back to this next year wink
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    Quoting: jslongo
    lmao ill come back to this next year wink


    And I'll be happy to discuss it when we no longer have to make assumptions wink
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    And I'll be happy to discuss it when we no longer have to make assumptions wink


    Im not assuming he will fail whatsoever. Im assuming he gets an extension fairly quickly coming this season.

    Again no chance he gets paid a dime over 6m after next season
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    Quoting: jslongo
    Im not assuming he will fail whatsoever. Im assuming he gets an extension fairly quickly coming this season.

    Again no chance he gets paid a dime over 6m after next season


    K... talk later bruh

    Edit:
    Again your assumptions make no sense, you're assuming KK agree to an extension early (when is early) without either side first seeing performance... that would mean they have a predetermined contract extension which would be a direct violation of the CBA... (it illegally modifies the terms of the offersheet).

    I guarantee KK's performance will factor in to his next contract.
    31 août 2021 à 13 h 9
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    K... talk later bruh

    Edit:
    Again your assumptions make no sense, you're assuming KK agree to an extension early (when is early) without either side first seeing performance... that would mean they have a predetermined contract extension which would be a direct violation of the CBA... (it illegally modifies the terms of the offersheet).

    I guarantee KK's performance will factor in to his next contract.


    Early = Before the qualification starts after next season.

    Now you are assuming they have a predetermined contract extension? where are you pulling this out of?

    I know youre salty losing a young talented player, but that shouldnt skew your vision on whats really going on.

    Youve never seen a player get an extension on a team they havent played a game for yet? hahaha
    31 août 2021 à 13 h 21
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    Quoting: jslongo
    Early = Before the qualification starts after next season.

    Now you are assuming they have a predetermined contract extension? where are you pulling this out of?

    I know youre salty losing a young talented player, but that shouldnt skew your vision on whats really going on.

    Youve never seen a player get an extension on a team they havent played a game for yet? hahaha


    Now your just trolling... after this response I'm done here.

    1. I misunderstood what you meant by early because you simply can't explain yourself properly so it leaves me trying to make assumptions and fill in the blanks... which is where I assumed you meant they have a predetermined contract extension (because you seem to disregard my claim that performance will impact KK's next contract, the only way you could reasonably dispute that is by claiming KK has already agreed to a predetermined extension which was agreed upon before playing a game.)

    2. Of course players sign contracts / extensions before they play games for there team.. this is exactly what CAR is doing with KK now and what MTL did with Drouin, Shaw, Anderson etc., when they traded for their rights and extended them. What doesn't happen though, is teams do not sign guys to one year contacts and then sign extensions before they even play one game of that contract... that's against the CBA and not even possible... so again why are you bringing it up when it's irrelevant to the discussion? Either you're trolling or you aren't smart enough to follow along, and in either case I'm done here.
    31 août 2021 à 13 h 28
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    Quoting: Shanesaw9
    Now your just trolling... after this response I'm done here.

    1. I misunderstood what you meant by early because you simply can't explain yourself properly so it leaves me trying to make assumptions and fill in the blanks... which is where I assumed you meant they have a predetermined contract extension (because you seem to disregard my claim that performance will impact KK's next contract, the only way you could reasonably dispute that is by claiming KK has already agreed to a predetermined extension which was agreed upon before playing a game.)

    2. Of course players sign contracts / extensions before they play games for there team.. this is exactly what CAR is doing with KK now and what MTL did with Drouin, Shaw, Anderson etc., when they traded for their rights and extended them. What doesn't happen though, is teams do not sign guys to one year contacts and then sign extensions before they even play one game of that contract... that's against the CBA and not even possible... so again why are you bringing it up when it's irrelevant to the discussion? Either you're trolling or you aren't smart enough to follow along, and in either case I'm done here.


    I honestly dont think you know to much about offer sheets so this is were we are going to leave it. Have a good day and do some homework!
     
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