what every team could have looked like according to my mock drafts pt 12

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Créé par: bunzy1034

Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 31 août 2021

Publié: 31 août 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

The rules:
- I redrafted every draft from 2007-2016 using the first round only. I drafted using best player available with current knowledge on all the players.
- I drafted based on what a player has done in their careers up until this point, disregarding future potential
- All players drafted before 2007 or after 2016 can stay on their current teams.
-All players not ranked inside the first round in their respective draft can stay on their current team
-All undrafted players will stay on current rosters
- all players redrafted by different teams must be shipped off the roster
- I will fill out the roster with players within the organization preferably.
- This isn't meant to be a realistic exercise, its only a supposed to give a glimpse of what teams could have looked like in hindsight. so disregard things like the salary cap.

Oilers who got drafted to other teams:
Zach Hyman: 2010 25th overall-FLA
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: 2011 13th overall- CGY
Kyle Turris: 2007 25th overall- VAN
Jesse Pulujarvi: 2016 16th overall- ARI
Tyson Barrie 2009 19th overall- NYR
Oscar Klefbom 2011 21st overall- OTT

Transactions

EDM

McDonagh, Ryan

Détails additionnels:

2007 6th overall: Sam Gagner (Ranked 24th)

TBL

EDM

van Riemsdyk, James

Détails additionnels:

2007 15th overall: Alex Plante (NR)

PHI

EDM

Sutter, Brandon

Détails additionnels:

2007 21st overall: Riley Nash (Ranked 19th)

VAN

EDM

Del Zotto, Michael

Détails additionnels:

2008 22nd overall: Jordan Eberle (Ranked 9th)

OTT

EDM

Smith, Craig

Détails additionnels:

2009 10th overall: Magnus Paajarvi (NR)

BOS

EDM

Stone, Mark

Détails additionnels:

2010 1st overall: Taylor Hall (Ranked 2nd)

VGK

EDM

Couturier, Sean

Détails additionnels:

2011 1st overall: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Ranked 13th)

PHI

EDM

Shaw, Andrew

Détails additionnels:

RETIRED
2011 19th overall: Oscar Klefbom (ranked 21st)

CHI

EDM

Vasilevskiy, Andrei

Détails additionnels:

2012 1st overall: Nail Yakupov (NR)

TBL

10.

EDM

Bjorkstrand, Oliver

Détails additionnels:

2013 7th overall: Darnell Nurse (NR)

CBJ

11.

EDM

Leon Draisaitl

2014 3rd overall: Leon Draisaitl

CBJ

12.

EDM

Connor McDavid

2015 1st overall: Connor McDavid

CBJ

13.

EDM

McAvoy, Charlie

Détails additionnels:

2016 4th overall: Jesse Pulujarvi (Ranked 16th)

BOS

14.

EDM

BOS

Détails additionnels:

players drafted by other teams

15.

EDM

BOS

Détails additionnels:

not needed on roster

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	98 216 839 $	669 339 $	907 500 $	-16 716 839 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Stone, Mark 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 6
van Riemsdyk, James 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Couturier, Sean 4 333 333 $4 333 333 $ C UFA - 1	Bjorkstrand, Oliver 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5
Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	McLeod, Ryan 834 167 $834 167 $ (57 500 $$58K) C RFA - 1	Smith, Craig 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Shore, Devin 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Ryan, Derek 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Archibald, Josh 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 5 600 000 $5 600 000 $ DG UFA - 1	McAvoy, Charlie 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 7
McDonagh, Ryan 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 5	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2	Smith, Mike 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 2
Del Zotto, Michael 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Russell, Kris 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Sutter, Brandon 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1		Shaw, Andrew 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Perlini, Brendan 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Koekkoek, Slater 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Stone, M.		Couturier, S.		Draisaitl, L.
	McDavid, C.		Nurse, D.

Avantage numérique 2
van Riemsdyk, J.		McLeod, R.		Bjorkstrand, O.
	McDonagh, R.		McAvoy, C.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Couturier, S.	Stone, M.
	McDonagh, R.	McAvoy, C.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Ryan, D.	Foegele, W.
	Del Zotto, M.	Russell, K.

31 août 2021 à 7 h 47

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Who do you have ahead of Draisaitl in 2014?

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31 août 2021 à 8 h 0

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2012 just made me blink a lot and say "daaaaaaamn" out loud - they really screwed the pooch on that draft.

31 août 2021 à 8 h 20

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Draisaitl definitely goes 1OA in a redraft. He’s better than point and better than pastrnak

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31 août 2021 à 9 h 15

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Quoting: Icehockey18121124

Who do you have ahead of Draisaitl in 2014?

Pasta and point

31 août 2021 à 9 h 16

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Quoting: SadlyAnOilFan

Draisaitl definitely goes 1OA in a redraft. He’s better than point and better than pastrnak

In my opinion the other two have been more valuable players. Even though they’re all really close

31 août 2021 à 9 h 16

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Quoting: bunzy1034

In my opinion the other two have been slightly more valuable players. Even though they’re all really close

31 août 2021 à 9 h 31

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Quoting: bunzy1034

In my opinion the other two have been more valuable players. Even though they’re all really close

Yeah, it's not that close.

Past 2 seasons

Past 3 seasons

Career

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31 août 2021 à 9 h 41

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Yeah, it's not that close.

Past 2 seasons

Past 3 seasons

Career

I don’t make my list off of points because there is way more to hockey than that

31 août 2021 à 9 h 51

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Quoting: bunzy1034

I don’t make my list off of points because there is way more to hockey than that

There's a lot more information than just point in the lists I posted.

I'm glad to keep Draisaitl, because he's easily the best player from the 2014 draft. He is, in fact, an MVP.

31 août 2021 à 10 h 13

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Quoting: CD282

There's a lot more information than just point in the lists I posted.

I'm glad to keep Draisaitl, because he's easily the best player from the 2014 draft. He is, in fact, an MVP.

I mean really all 3 of them are so close I could understand any of them being at # drai is obviously still really good

31 août 2021 à 10 h 38

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Quoting: bunzy1034

Pasta and point

I would go Drai > Point > Pasta. Centers are more valuable and harder to come by. Drai is a top 5 center, Point is a top 10 center, and Pasta is a Top 5 wing right now.

Out of curiosity, where did you have Ekblad?

I like these, good fun thing to do.

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I have ekblad at 4 with Ehlers barely behind him at 5

31 août 2021 à 11 h 48

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Quoting: bunzy1034

I don’t make my list off of points because there is way more to hockey than that

Draisaitl has literally won a Ted Lindsay, a Heart trophy, an Art Ross, and had a 50 goal season. The only thing that you can say is Edmonton is not nearly as good as Boston or Tampa over these guys careers, which doesn’t have anything to do with these players.

But yeah these redrafts are fun to discuss

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31 août 2021 à 15 h 27

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Am I reading this wrong but it has Nurse as NR? I'd personally still have him in that 5-10 range.

As with others above, big disagreement on Drai not being #1 in 2013.

Might disagree on Shaw over Klefbom a bit but that's a pretty minor one. Points isn't be all end all but Klefbom as a D was 0.41P/G and Shaw as a forward wasn't much higher at 0.45P/G. Shaw had the advantage of being a complimentary winger on a stacked contender for a good chunk of his career where Klefbom had to play on the Oilers Decade of Darkness blueline where he never had depth or a decent partner. I guess injuries need to be taken into account in mock drafts but it's too bad we never got to see what Klefbom's career would've looked like without the nagging shoulder injuries.

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31 août 2021 à 16 h 19

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Am I reading this wrong but it has Nurse as NR? I'd personally still have him in that 5-10 range.

LOL, I missed that. Crazy!

Hard to believe there's anyone out there that would prefer Bjorkstrand over Nurse, let alone leaving Nurse right out of the 1st round entirely. Wow.

31 août 2021 à 20 h 6

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Personally I just don’t think nurse has been very good at all besides this year. He’s very bad defensively couldn’t overlook that’s my opinion

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Personally I just don’t think nurse has been very good at all besides this year. He’s very bad defensively couldn’t overlook that’s my opinion

I mean, opinions are opinions but that is one wild take.... 7th in Norris voting last year but outside the entire first round in your re-draft.

The guy has shown he's a top pairing dman, over the last 4 years:
-has not missed a game
-has seen ice time increase from 22mins/game to over 25 mins/game
-plus/minus of +35
-scoring pace of 10.4G and 39.3P per 82GP

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Not trying to sound rude but I don’t really value stats like time on ice and +/- when evaluating players. I can see why people think highly of him because he’s on the flashier side

2 sept. 2021 à 11 h 23

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Not trying to sound rude but I don’t really value stats like time on ice and +/- when evaluating players. I can see why people think highly of him because he’s on the flashier side

I'll agree that in a vacuum things like TOI and +/- aren't the most useful and points isn't be all end all but when you see everything add it up tells a story.

25:00+ ice time means #1Dman on your team and generally playing against toughest competition
Positive plus/minus means that when you're on the ice the puck is ending up in the other teams net more than yours
High point production means he's contributing to the offense (15 out of 16 goals last year were at even strength, wasn't just riding the PP)

His game is high event (lots of chances at both ends) but it is definitely amplified by playing most of his time with Tyson Barrie... every Dman is going to have adventures when you're playing the other teams best players with essentially 4 forwards on the ice.

I'm just curious what your full re-draft/evaluation criteria looks like when you have an average top 6 winger redrafted at 7 and a clear top pairing defenseman that is completely out of the first round.

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Quoting: rpain

I respect your view on it, but like I said I take all the years into account. To me Bjorkstrand has been a real underrated top 6 winger for the past few years, and I feel like this was Nurse's only real standout season in terms of impact. For example, I ranked Morrissey at 30th because he was quite good his first couple years but his past two have been real bad. Another season like that for Nurse will see him shoot up the rankings for me. I think he's a quite talented player I just think he hasn't always used his skill set properly and would make sloppy plays with the puck to often. He seemed to clean that up this year

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