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Rangers Dont bet the farm

Créé par: faulkmydzingel
Date de création initiale: aoû 25, 2021
Publié: 25 aoû à 12 h 34
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Explications
I am 100% indifferent to the New York Rangers. Don't like them. Don't hate them. But from a logical point of view, I don't think trading the farm for Eichel is their best move right now. Try to acquire someone expiring like Hertl for minimal assets for now. IF Eichel shows he is ready to play mid way through the season you can try and execute a trade. But right now I think the risk with Eichel is high. My two cents.
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  1. Hertl, Tomas
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    Some determined value
    Rachats de contrats
    • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
    • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
    • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
    • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
    • Brad Richards: 0 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    NYR
    NYR
    STL
    NYR
    WPG
    NYR
    NYR
    2023
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2024
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2581 500 000 $78 303 969 $0 $7 550 000 $3 196 031 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    NYR
    Panarin, Artemi
    11 642 857 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Zibanejad, Mika
    5 350 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Reaves, Ryan
    1 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Kreider, Chris
    6 500 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    NYR
    Strome, Ryan
    4 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Blais, Samuel
    1 500 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Goodrow, Barclay
    3 641 667 $
    AG, C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    NYR
    Chytil, Filip
    2 300 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Kakko, Kaapo
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Lafrenière, Alexis
    925 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    SJS
    Hertl, Tomas
    5 625 000 $
    C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Kravtsov, Vitali
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Hunt, Dryden
    762 500 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    NYR
    Gauthier, Julien
    775 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Rooney, Kevin
    750 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    NYR
    Lindgren, Ryan
    3 000 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    NYR
    Trouba, Jacob
    8 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Shesterkin, Igor
    5 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 4
    NYR
    Nemeth, Patrik
    2 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    NYR
    Fox, Adam
    925 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Georgiev, Alexandar
    2 425 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Miller, K'Andre
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Jones, Zachary
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Tinordi, Jarred
    900 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    NYR
    Bitetto, Anthony
    737 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1

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    25 aoû à 12 h 40
    #1
    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
    Rejoint: jui 2019
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    … that’s why they haven’t traded the farm. Because they won’t trade the farm for eichel. Like every other team they are trying to get the best package sent. And sending a chytil and or Jones plus an nhl player and a 1st is hardest trading the farm. And if they add Zib to the trade it’s Zib Jones and a pick. Chytil strome Jones and 1sts are not the farm and for eichel it would be worth it
    25 aoû à 12 h 48
    #2
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    Trade minimal assets != getting a first line center
    25 aoû à 12 h 53
    #3
    MERCER SZN
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    It would likely cost one of Lundkvist or Chytil + Georgiev + 1st for Hertl

    I wouldn't consider that minimal assets
    25 aoû à 13 h 13
    #4
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    EichelOverrated
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    It would likely cost one of Lundkvist or Chytil + Georgiev + 1st for Hertl

    I wouldn't consider that minimal assets


    You think that much? I don't know. The guy is expiring and doesn't fit with the Sharks for a long term plan based off of their financial commitments. They may be in a take what they can get category. I can't see him re signing there.
    25 aoû à 13 h 26
    #5
    Patient Sharks Fan
    Rejoint: jui 2021
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    Quoting: faulkmydzingel
    You think that much? I don't know. The guy is expiring and doesn't fit with the Sharks for a long term plan based off of their financial commitments. They may be in a take what they can get category. I can't see him re signing there.


    We're not "taking what we can get" for one of the best Centers in the game. Trust me, if he is moved the package will be 'outstanding'
    25 aoû à 14 h 23
    #6
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    EichelOverrated
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    Quoting: lilfimpen
    We're not "taking what we can get" for one of the best Centers in the game. Trust me, if he is moved the package will be 'outstanding'


    Oh boy, one of the best centers in the game? He's a solid center. That list is very long in front of him. He's a UFA on a team with pretty much no chance of contending for a few years. He's exactly the type of player that gets moved for any assets possible. Hertl is better than Taylor Hall, but look at the trade deadline trade for Hall.
    25 aoû à 14 h 29
    #7
    Patient Sharks Fan
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    Quoting: faulkmydzingel
    Oh boy, one of the best centers in the game? He's a solid center. That list is very long in front of him. He's a UFA on a team with pretty much no chance of contending for a few years. He's exactly the type of player that gets moved for any assets possible. Hertl is better than Taylor Hall, but look at the trade deadline trade for Hall.


    Thanks for telling me nothing I didn't know. Anything to offer other than 'solid' and 'long list in front of him'. I like stats and his stats tell me he's one of the best 30 centers in the league. Please tell me why he's not with actual evidence. Hall is not a Center so this comparable is not even remotely comparable.
    25 aoû à 14 h 42
    #8
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    EichelOverrated
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    Quoting: lilfimpen
    Thanks for telling me nothing I didn't know. Anything to offer other than 'solid' and 'long list in front of him'. I like stats and his stats tell me he's one of the best 30 centers in the league. Please tell me why he's not with actual evidence. Hall is not a Center so this comparable is not even remotely comparable.


    Ok. I guess we have different views of the term "best centers". Yes... you're right. He is probably in the realm of one of the best 30 centers in the league.
    25 aoû à 15 h 45
    #9
    Patient Sharks Fan
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    Quoting: faulkmydzingel
    Ok. I guess we have different views of the term "best centers". Yes... you're right. He is probably in the realm of one of the best 30 centers in the league.


    It was never about one of us being right. Instead of just telling me he's not one of the best, tell me why. I respect opinions if there are statistics backing them up
    25 aoû à 17 h 07
    #10
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    Quoting: faulkmydzingel
    You think that much? I don't know. The guy is expiring and doesn't fit with the Sharks for a long term plan based off of their financial commitments. They may be in a take what they can get category. I can't see him re signing there.


    You seem to be rather low on a great player who is a high 2C at worst if not a 1C. He’s not going for whatever San Jose can get. For comparison look at the deal that got Ristolainen. They are similar age and cap hit on the last year of their deals, however Hertl is a much better player and a center. That deal was a player (Hagg), a first and a second round pick. Hertl will go for at least a first and an A prospect, not minimal assets.
     
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