Yup absolutely.

A lot of ppl don’t want Sharks games and west coast games are less seen

In no particular order
Mcdavid
Draisaitl
Stamkos
Point
Scheifele
Toews
Suzuki
Matthews
Tavares
Malkin
Crosby
Giroux
Couturier
Kuznetsov
Backstrom
Bergeron
Barkov
Reinhart
Seguin
O’Reilly
MacKinnon
Kopitar
Danault
Zibanejad
Petterson
Horvat
Barzal
Larkin
Eichel
That’s 29 and there’s others that I wouldnt say are better or worse than hertl so not a chance he’s top 30 maybe in the 30s

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503 games 323 points… PoInT pEr GaMe L

At this stage of some of those guys careers - I’d think the following are relatively in the same tier and pretty interchangeable.

Toews - Hertl way better, dude hasn’t played in over a year and likely won’t be what he was 5 years ago
Suzuki - not as good yet
Malkin - with injuries, would take Hertl
Kuznetsov - Hertl is better at this stage and with less baggage
Backstrom - about even
Reinhart - Hertl better or even at worst
Seguin - with injuries last couple seasons Hertl is better
O’Reilly - even
Danault - even
Zibanejad - even
Horvat - even
Larkin - Hertl better

You’re not objectively showing how he’s worse than all the guys you listed.

You lost credibility when u said Danault. I’m sorry but no

Half of those guy a selke candidates

Hertl has had one season over 50 points

Zibanejad has had 3 and a 40goal season

Larkin had had 3 on the worst team in the league

Horvat has had 3 and is a fantastic 2way player

Danault same on points but is a top 5 defensive center

O’Reilly 3 seasons not scoring at least 50 points, Stanley cup champion, selke winner you’re on something if you think they’re even

Seguin has like 2 seasons under 60 points and with the injury excuse then shouldn’t hertl be better than eichel so that’s just malarkey

Reinhart 3 50+ point seasons on one of the worst teams

Backstrom is a consistent 70 point player and one of the best passers on the game

Kuznetsov might have baggage but is easily a 65+ point guy

Malkin has more hardware than hertl could dream of having I’m not even looking at the points cause that’s ridiculous

Suzuki 40+ point in his first 2 years at 22 easily better

And toews has more hardware than hertl could dream of as well and has been one of the best defensive players for a long time

You literally are just saying nonsense

Angry sens fan hes one of the best 2way centers in the league. Get over it

Sure he’s a great 2C but his offence is nowhere near a 1C maybe even an average 2C. His numbers are similar to Pageau

Yeah and hertls a great 2c too but danault is better

So is Hertl, so what's your point?

I respect your opinion. Now tell me why Danault is better. You have not made an argument.

Haha didn’t realize having hardware from the last makes you a better player today or that injuries don’t really matter. Keeping living in your world man, seems like a cool delusional place to be. Cheers!

Danault’s best season was 53pts in 81 games. Hertl’s best season is 74pts in 77 games. If Montreal thought Danault was a 50+ pt player, they easily would’ve re-signed him.

Faksa had selke votes at one point, does that make him a 1C

Montreal wasn’t about to pay him when they have Suzuki kk and want eichel so… ding dong your opinion is wrong

And Barkov won the Selke despite having mediocre defensive metrics.

Reminder that this guy was 13th in Selke voting.

In other words, you don't have a real reply.

Don't think you know what the Selke trophy is.

Don't really have a dog in the fight, but looking at numbers for the last 3yrs for Hertl vs other Centers:

Goals - 18th
Assist - 43rd
Points - 32nd

Not bad considering how bad the Sharks have been recently. I could see an argument for him being Top 30 and not Top 30. His G/A/P numbers are very similar to guys like Horvat and Pettersson.

San Jose should add a 1st because Faksa is so elite in the defensive zone, and he has grit, plus he’s good on faceoffs. Total stud according to Rick Bowness.

Dude, chill.

This still isn't a real reply.

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