So there can only be one elite shut down player in the entire league?? They can’t both have a similar feature in their games? Interesting way to go about it.

You’re argument so far is:
Both guys play great D
They score similarly
Marner sets up more
Marner plays with better players
Blindly pay 6 million more
Add a boat load to a trade

You’ve pointed out many times the similarities but still say the trade difference is huge. You either actively choose to be dumb or genuinely huff glue. You’ve driven my point home with more emphasis than I tried to put on it.

no, my argument is that Marner scores significantly more points and about the same goals while turning every goal scorer he plays with into an even better scorer than they have ever been.
Marner is younger and entering his prime
Lindholm is not better and is older and exiting his prime
Marner is better, and therefor costs more, and therefore you add more to a trade.
You have constantly moved the goalposts, flpped back your own arguments and flat out not even realised who Lindholm plays with ( i love how you keep pretending this isnt a thing, maybe that's the glue your huffing? I dont know how that works)
The only "points" you have is that Marner makes more and Lindholm plays C.

That was very clearly a part of the comment I got one line into and then asked you to point out your made up argument to puff your chest, I promise you aren’t worth going back and finishing your comment full of falsehoods. Take your 5’2” certified little man badge a run along.

settle down there tiger, when you start throwing around insults all you're doing is showing the world that you got nothing in the tank and you lost. If you just walk away you can pretend you had to do laundry and forgot about the thread.

Oh honey, you were a certified little man from comment 3 of the thread. I’m sure you conveniently missed that though! When you project five foot two energy to the world people pick up on it. Have a great night pal!

1. You’re existence is nothing to me. You thinking I care that you think I’m a jackass is essentially a mosquito hitting a windshield, spray away the pest, move along.

2. You’re argument was that Marner is better, that was never a question, you and JerkoffFromLondon can fiddle each other and make things up together.

Enjoy your night fella!

I love how you just ignore how much of a difference Matthews makes. Marner's literally never even paced 30 goals. As I said earlier the difference between Marner and Lindholm on a line with Matthews is 10-15 points max

Dube was a sophomore last year, he's still developing and is already better than any LW currently on Toronto. Again, the original trade was a massive win for the Leafs, the redone one is laughably lopsided

Ah yes, we're at the point where we are inventing outcomes that suit our narrative. Well here's a fun one, you're ignoring what a difference gaudreau makes! The difference between Marner playing with him over Matthews is 10-15 goals for Marner
Sure Dube was a softmore, but that doesnt change that he hasnt shown himself to be anything more than a 3rd liner, and by your logic, Bunting was a rookie last year and only got 1 less goal in less than half the games, so clearly Dube isnt better than him, or Ritchie who scored more.

Lindholm played the last 10 games this year with Gaudreau and like 1 random game in the middle of the season. Also are you saying Gaudreau is as good as Matthews?

im pointing out how just pretending something will happen doesnt mean it has merit, that was pretty clear with the inventing narratives line which immediately preceded the obvious joke. If you wanna pretend that suddenly Lindholm is going to become a much better play maker because of Matthews then I get to pretend Marner is going to become a significantly better goal scorer because of Gaudreau.
As has been stated many times, and at least twice in this thread alone, when paired with Marner, all three goal scorers on his line have gone on to have career years, the bulk of his assists are primary and he is doing as much work as anyone on his lines to get those totals, yet people love to pretend that he's only where he is because of Matthews or whatever.

Im not saying Marner isnt an excellent player because he is. Im saying that Lindholm would put up around 80-85 points playing with an eilte center like Matthews. You are welcome to disagree with that but then its just a difference of opinions. At less than half the cost if Lindholm is going to be producing at a relatively similar rate all while having a more physical and equally strong defensive game I would much rather have Lindholm, especially when you factor in Dube++ as well. End of the day Lindholm is obviously underpaid for what he does and Marner is overpaid. Marner is still an excellent player, just is making too much money

This is hilarious. I was just having a little fun. I don't know the exact values but I know Marner is worth a lot.

You’re absolutely correct. Marner is worth a lot, Lindholm is worth a lot, everyone can go home happy.