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Eichel Trade Some Sources have said

Créé par: aastorino1993
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2021
Publié: 3 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I have seen this mix multiple times in a trade for Eichel.

This trade will send Chytil, Schneider, and Geo along with a 1st/2nd round pick. Eichel will come with 20% retained by Buffalo meaning 8mil is what the Rangers will spend on him for the next 4 years.

The strome trade is something that I did and I honestly only think it will pull either a 3rd or a 2nd round pick and not both, but I put both because I am greedy.

Igor signed for 6x6 and Goodrow will center that 3rd line.
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  1. Eichel, Jack (2 000 000 $ retained)
BUF
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. Schneider, Braden
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
1st Round Pick = Top 10 Protected (This is me doing this not sources)
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3 août 2021 à 1 h 36
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Who are your sources......your mom?
3 août 2021 à 1 h 53
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Links to the sources please….
3 août 2021 à 1 h 59
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Your sources aren't very bright, not one piece in that trade even holds enough value to even slightly interest us.
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3 août 2021 à 2 h 29
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Your sources aren't very bright, not one piece in that trade even holds enough value to even slightly interest us.


Outside perspective here, thats just not correct. All those pieces have decent value. Not saying Sabres do that trade but its not insanely bad value
3 août 2021 à 2 h 29
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Get better sources.
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3 août 2021 à 2 h 33
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Quoting: delneggs
Who are your sources......your mom?


Twitter people. never said they were good sources but a lot of them have been thinking this is the offer currently
3 août 2021 à 2 h 34
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Get better sources.


never said they were good sources
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Your sources aren't very bright, not one piece in that trade even holds enough value to even slightly interest us.


So good prospects aren't good. what would you like from the trade mr GM.
3 août 2021 à 2 h 35
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Quoting: Buffalove
Links to the sources please….


Twitter people bro, they aren't worth listing because they aren't great and i already knew that. This was to see what people would say in all honesty.
3 août 2021 à 4 h 33
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Quoting: aastorino1993
Twitter people bro, they aren't worth listing because they aren't great and i already knew that. This was to see what people would say in all honesty.


So are they really “sources”
or ppl without connections throwing bs out there ???

I just don’t see ANY way the Sabres would move Eichel without getting some high end pieces back

And these are all “secondary” imo
3 août 2021 à 4 h 39
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Outside perspective here, thats just not correct. All those pieces have decent value. Not saying Sabres do that trade but its not insanely bad value


He didn’t say it was “insanely bad value”

He said those pieces don’t interest us
And i believe he’s correct

“Secondary” pieces like this aren’t gonna get Eichel….
Otherwise he’d have already been moved
3 août 2021 à 5 h 53
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Outside perspective here, thats just not correct. All those pieces have decent value. Not saying Sabres do that trade but its not insanely bad value


The Detroit trade you called "Junk" yesterday was a much better return than this.
3 août 2021 à 6 h 10
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Quoting: Buffalove
He didn’t say it was “insanely bad value”

He said those pieces don’t interest us
And i believe he’s correct

“Secondary” pieces like this aren’t gonna get Eichel….
Otherwise he’d have already been moved


Thats the problem though, what are you expecting to get? Zero chance you get Lafreniere, unlikely to get Kakko. So odds are tou are going to get a collection of decent assets like Colorado did with Duchene (just on a bigger scale).

As for why he hasnt been move I would say NYR refusing to trade Schneider (who is in this proposal) is a pretty big reason
3 août 2021 à 6 h 14
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The Detroit trade you called "Junk" yesterday was a much better return than this.


What this one? No it isnt, every player and prospect shown above is definitely better than the ones in that trade, the only thing Detroit offers better there is the 1sts.

Not to mention it includes Levi going with Jack
3 août 2021 à 6 h 26
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What this one? No it isnt, every player and prospect shown above is definitely better than the ones in that trade, the only thing Detroit offers better there is the 1sts.

Not to mention it includes Levi going with Jack


No they are not and by saying that you're proving to me that you don't know what you're talking about. Don't care about Levi. Comment was about the value offered. Albert Johansson is a better prospect than Schnieder, Veleno is comparable to Chytil and McIsaac is still a good prospect despite his injuries. Geogiev is a career back up. Oh and I love how you tried to deemphasize the fact that you called two first round picks junk.
3 août 2021 à 7 h 34
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No they are not and by saying that you're proving to me that you don't know what you're talking about. Don't care about Levi. Comment was about the value offered. Albert Johansson is a better prospect than Schnieder, Veleno is comparable to Chytil and McIsaac is still a good prospect despite his injuries. Geogiev is a career back up. Oh and I love how you tried to deemphasize the fact that you called two first round picks junk.


Wow your bias here is insane, Schneider is a way better prospect than Albert Johansson, Veleno isnt even half as good as Chytil, McIsaac i agree is decent despite injuries but Georgiev makes no sense considering he's only 25. I never called the 1sts junk either.

I also said Buffalo wouldnt do this trade I was arguing that the pieces being offered are what Buffalo would likely receive as the main returns (just more, and no retention)
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Wow your bias here is insane, Schneider is a way better prospect than Albert Johansson, Veleno isnt even half as good as Chytil, McIsaac i agree is decent despite injuries but Georgiev makes no sense considering he's only 25. I never called the 1sts junk either.

I also said Buffalo wouldnt do this trade I was arguing that the pieces being offered are what Buffalo would likely receive as the main returns (just more, and no retention)


Sure bud. Johansson's been playing first pairing minutes in the SHL for two years. You know, since his draft year? Like i said you're just proving that you don't know what you're talking about. You called the trade package junk. Pretty clear. It wasn't and you should just admit it. You're all over the place with your values on these Eichel trades because you don't know other teams prospects as well as you think you do.
3 août 2021 à 8 h 1
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Sure bud. Johansson's been playing first pairing minutes in the SHL for two years. You know, since his draft year? Like i said you're just proving that you don't know what you're talking about. You called the trade package junk. Pretty clear. It wasn't and you should just admit it. You're all over the place with your values on these Eichel trades because you don't know other teams prospects as well as you think you do.


Playing 1st pair in the SHL doesnt mean anything, hes still projected to be a 3rd pair guy with fringe #4 potential, Schneider is literally projected to be a 1st pair guy.

You are clearly just biased
3 août 2021 à 8 h 10
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Playing 1st pair in the SHL doesnt mean anything, hes still projected to be a 3rd pair guy with fringe #4 potential, Schneider is literally projected to be a 1st pair guy.

You are clearly just biased


Wtf are you talking about? Who projects them where? Give me a break. About the only thing Schneider has over Johansson is height. Johansson has excelled for two years against men while Schneider has had one decent showing against kids his age in a bullsh*t WHL season that no one should take too seriously. Do think if scouts and GMs took the WHL seriously this year Guenther would have gone 9th after averaging 2 points a game?
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Playing 1st pair in the SHL doesnt mean anything, hes still projected to be a 3rd pair guy with fringe #4 potential, Schneider is literally projected to be a 1st pair guy.

You are clearly just biased


Also dude, saying that playing first pair in the SHL against men as an 18 or 19 year old "doesn't mean anything" kind of proves my point about you not knowing what you're talking about.
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Wtf are you talking about? Who projects them where? Give me a break. About the only thing Schneider has over Johansson is height. Johansson has excelled for two years against men while Schneider has had one decent showing against kids his age in a bullsh*t WHL season that no one should take too seriously. Do think if scouts and GMs took the WHL seriously this year Guenther would have gone 9th after averaging 2 points a game?


Lol what? Plenty of sutes project prospects, here is one for you, Elite Prospects is another. Surely youve heard of them?
3 août 2021 à 8 h 28
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Also dude, saying that playing first pair in the SHL against men as an 18 or 19 year old "doesn't mean anything" kind of proves my point about you not knowing what you're talking about.


But it doesn't, you are trying to use that as an excuse to why Schneider plays 1st pair in a junior league, it doesnt make sense.

Again you are just proving how biased you are towards your favorite team
3 août 2021 à 8 h 36
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol what? Plenty of sutes project prospects, here is one for you, Elite Prospects is another. Surely youve heard of them?


Did you literally just give me a link to Dobbers? Okay what does that prove? That it exists? Am I supposed to go looking for these recent projections to disprove my own point? Or can you provide proof for your own arguments? Show me on Dobbers where it says that playing in the SHL as an 18/19 year old doesn't mean anything. Show me where on Elite Prospects it says that Schneider is better than Johansson. Dude just stop. You cant admit you were wrong and that's sad. You called the proposed return junk and you were wrong and nothing you've wasted your time saying has changed that fact.
3 août 2021 à 8 h 40
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
But it doesn't, you are trying to use that as an excuse to why Schneider plays 1st pair in a junior league, it doesnt make sense.

Again you are just proving how biased you are towards your favorite team


This has nothing to do with bias. One has excelled in a much better league against men, the other excelled in an inferior league in a suspect season. That's not bias, it's proof. Do you have an actual argument or are you just going to keep calling me biased as if that will get you out of this.
3 août 2021 à 8 h 41
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Did you literally just give me a link to Dobbers? Okay what does that prove? That it exists? Am I supposed to go looking for these recent projections to disprove my own point? Or can you provide proof for your own arguments? Show me on Dobbers where it says that playing in the SHL as an 18/19 year old doesn't mean anything. Show me where on Elite Prospects it says that Schneider is better than Johansson. Dude just stop. You cant admit you were wrong and that's sad. You called the proposed return junk and you were wrong and nothing you've wasted your time saying has changed that fact.


I wasnt wrong about anything, you massively overvalue your prospects that is very clear as day.

Like you literally said "Albert Johansson is a better prospect than Schnieder, Veleno is comparable to Chytil." That is so absurdly biased and you are the one who is unable to see that.
 
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