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Starting to Plateau... Trade for Duchene?

Créé par: Hawkisles
Équipe: 2016-17 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 18 févr. 2017
Publié: 18 févr. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The Isles are starting to plateau to .500 under Weight. Offensive production, puck possession and defense have improved. But if we want to make the playoffs, we'll have to do better than .500.
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  1. Dal Colle, Michael
  2. De Haan, Calvin
  3. Quine, Alan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (NYI)
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2273 000 000 $65 218 143 $0 $212 500 $7 781 857 $
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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UFA - 3
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
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UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
UFA - 3
850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
C
UFA - 5
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
4 187 500 $4 187 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
DG
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3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
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675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
625 000 $625 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
854 333 $854 333 $
DG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
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19 févr. 2017 à 0 h 18
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Interesting trade. I think the Avs take that deal
19 févr. 2017 à 1 h 8
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Interesting trade. I think the Avs take that deal


They probably would be its a lot of pieces, but I still dont like it. Lots of risk in every piece attached. Nothing screams can't miss trade piece in that deal
19 févr. 2017 à 5 h 49
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Interesting trade. I think the Avs take that deal


They probably would be its a lot of pieces, but I still dont like it. Lots of risk in every piece attached. Nothing screams can't miss trade piece in that deal


de Haan- Young defenseman who already would make the top 4 on a goid number of teams. Really the only reason he's not this year is because Seidenberg came out of nowhere.

Dal Colle- Backslid a bit, but is still only 20 years old and adjusting to the AHL. Calling him any less than a high-level prospect would be an unfair assessment.

Alan Quine- Young NHL proven center on a cheap contract. Arguably an ideal 3rd Center.

Add in a first and second rounder, and I really don't see the risk. It would take fantastically bad luck for none of these players and the two picks to pan out well. That's five young assets to a team looking to rebuild. Five. Sure, nothing's "can't miss", but piece is valuable and suited for a team looking to rebuild.
19 févr. 2017 à 14 h 6
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They probably would be its a lot of pieces, but I still dont like it. Lots of risk in every piece attached. Nothing screams can't miss trade piece in that deal


de Haan- Young defenseman who already would make the top 4 on a goid number of teams. Really the only reason he's not this year is because Seidenberg came out of nowhere.

Dal Colle- Backslid a bit, but is still only 20 years old and adjusting to the AHL. Calling him any less than a high-level prospect would be an unfair assessment.

Alan Quine- Young NHL proven center on a cheap contract. Arguably an ideal 3rd Center.

Add in a first and second rounder, and I really don't see the risk. It would take fantastically bad luck for none of these players and the two picks to pan out well. That's five young assets to a team looking to rebuild. Five. Sure, nothing's "can't miss", but piece is valuable and suited for a team looking to rebuild.


Quoting: Hawkisles
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They probably would be its a lot of pieces, but I still dont like it. Lots of risk in every piece attached. Nothing screams can't miss trade piece in that deal


de Haan- Young defenseman who already would make the top 4 on a goid number of teams. Really the only reason he's not this year is because Seidenberg came out of nowhere.

Dal Colle- Backslid a bit, but is still only 20 years old and adjusting to the AHL. Calling him any less than a high-level prospect would be an unfair assessment.

Alan Quine- Young NHL proven center on a cheap contract. Arguably an ideal 3rd Center.

Add in a first and second rounder, and I really don't see the risk. It would take fantastically bad luck for none of these players and the two picks to pan out well. That's five young assets to a team looking to rebuild. Five. Sure, nothing's "can't miss", but piece is valuable and suited for a team looking to rebuild.


its still a big collection of meh. De Haan is fine, but hes not stud. Dal Colle is fine but hes not lock as a Top 6 NHL player. Alan Quine is just that a bottom 6 player and Avs have many guys like that already in their system, why add another one just to block their guys like Compher and AJ Greer.

LIke I said nothing in the package is worth moving duchene for, the pieces are fine but its still a bit underwhelming and I would hate if they sold him off for a collection of average to decent pieces vs 1 or 2 really good ones
19 févr. 2017 à 17 h 58
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its still a big collection of meh. De Haan is fine, but hes not stud. Dal Colle is fine but hes not lock as a Top 6 NHL player. Alan Quine is just that a bottom 6 player and Avs have many guys like that already in their system, why add another one just to block their guys like Compher and AJ Greer.

LIke I said nothing in the package is worth moving duchene for, the pieces are fine but its still a bit underwhelming and I would hate if they sold him off for a collection of average to decent pieces vs 1 or 2 really good ones


I understand, but the fact Duchene hasn't been moved yet means one of two things:

1. No one is willing to pay the high price Sakic has set. Might have to lower your price.
2. Sakic is waiting until the deadline to trade Duchene so he can get the most out of the trade, but that assumes that there are a lot of teams who are desperate to make the playoffs or win the cup this year.

There really arent that many teams who are so desperate to make the playoffs that they'd sell half their prospect system AND a top 2 defenseman for a non-Franchise Center. The Isles are the closest thing to a desperate buyer right now, and even then, they have a history of trading away good prospects for Top 6 Forwards who end up not panning out (see Alexei Yashin, Thomas Vanek). I'm sorry, but Sakic's asking price for Duchene (Top Defenseman, Two Top Prospects, 1st Round Pick) is too high. He might have to temper his expectations.
 
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