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Byron, PaulCanadiens de MontréalLNH-3 400 000 $111---0000--
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Byron, PaulCanadiens de MontréalLNH-3 400 000 $111---0000--
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20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 16
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Canucks decline
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I agree, this is terrible for Vancouver. The habs should take on Holtby, Beagle, and Roussel to even it up.
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No. Just No.

Byron can be used in any team, Erikson is not

Byron AAv is 3.4m , Eriksson is 6m AAV

Add Vancouver 1rst and maybe we'Re talking
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I'm not sure Loui is an issue cap-wise anymore, besides he only has one year left whereas Byron has 2.
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No. Just No.

Byron can be used in any team, Erikson is not

Byron AAv is 3.4m , Eriksson is 6m AAV

Add Vancouver 1rst and maybe we'Re talking


lol Vancouver's first? He is not really an issue any more so they really don't need to trade him that badly anyway.
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I agree, this is terrible for Vancouver. The habs should take on Holtby, Beagle, and Roussel to even it up.



Yet Habs fans keep trying to trade Byron to Ottawa "because he was born there", any excuse to make their moronic trade idea seem like it's plausible. If Byron is worse than Eriksson even up, that's pretty bad, and he has two more seasons, at least Eriksson is finally at the end of his contract.
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lol Vancouver's first? He is not really an issue any more so they really don't need to trade him that badly anyway.


AAAAAND how you signs Hugues & Petersson with only 15m ?

And btw don't forget that teams can offer sheets Petersson, I woulnd't be surprise if this happens
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Yet Habs fans keep trying to trade Byron to Ottawa "because he was born there", any excuse to make their moronic trade idea seem like it's plausible. If Byron is worse than Eriksson even up, that's pretty bad, and he has two more seasons, at least Eriksson is finally at the end of his contract.


......... bruh

Eriksson is not even a NHL player rn and Byron is a player that scored key goals in this past post-season and can bring speed on a third line
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Yet Habs fans keep trying to trade Byron to Ottawa "because he was born there", any excuse to make their moronic trade idea seem like it's plausible. If Byron is worse than Eriksson even up, that's pretty bad, and he has two more seasons, at least Eriksson is finally at the end of his contract.


Anyone who thinks about trading Byron is stupid, especially because of how much cap space Montréal has. He means a lot to this team, and they wouldn’t try to move him just to save a few bucks.

Also did you seriously just say that Byron is worse than Loui Eriksson?
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......... bruh

Eriksson is not even a NHL player rn and Byron is a player that scored key goals in this past post-season and can bring speed on a third line


"Score key goals" is a euphemism for "sucks most of the time"
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Anyone who thinks about trading Byron is stupid, especially because of how much cap space Montréal has. He means a lot to this team, and they wouldn’t try to move him just to save a few bucks.

Also did you seriously just say that Byron is worse than Loui Eriksson?


Yes, one sucks for one season, and the other for two seasons
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Quoting: nepTrystan
No. Just No.

Byron can be used in any team, Erikson is not

Byron AAv is 3.4m , Eriksson is 6m AAV

Add Vancouver 1rst and maybe we'Re talking


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lol Vancouver's first? He is not really an issue any more so they really don't need to trade him that badly anyway.


Quoting: nepTrystan
AAAAAND how you signs Hugues & Petersson with only 15m ?

And btw don't forget that teams can offer sheets Petersson, I woulnd't be surprise if this happens


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......... bruh

Eriksson is not even a NHL player rn and Byron is a player that scored key goals in this past post-season and can bring speed on a third line


Add caufield and suzuki and were talking
Canucks got TEN (10) more million that the habs in cap space at 24 million
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Quoting: nepTrystan
AAAAAND how you signs Hugues & Petersson with only 15m ?

And btw don't forget that teams can offer sheets Petersson, I woulnd't be surprise if this happens


Petterson switched agents last year to have the same agent as hughes to sign in Vancouver
Keep dreaming tho
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Anyone who thinks about trading Byron is stupid, especially because of how much cap space Montréal has. He means a lot to this team, and they wouldn’t try to move him just to save a few bucks.

Also did you seriously just say that Byron is worse than Loui Eriksson?


If MB goes wild this off seasons and bring a top 2 d, Eichel oand else they will miss money eventually
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"Score key goals" is a euphemism for "sucks most of the time"


..... bruh

If you says that Eriksson is better than Byron good for you, but you're wrong and you just look dumb by this state.
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Yes, one sucks for one season, and the other for two seasons


Umm, I guess you never watched Byron this year, or Loui in any of his previous seasons with Vancouver.

Anyways, we can both agree that anyone trying to trade Byron to Ottawa are complete idiots.
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Add caufield and suzuki and were talking
Canucks got TEN (10) more million that the habs in cap space at 24 million


This is next season, not this season xD

They need to sign Petersson and Huges RIGHT NOW , not next season lmao
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Petterson switched agents last year to have the same agent as hughes to sign in Vancouver
Keep dreaming tho


The only thing i can see it's both taking 1 year deal to helps vancouver but i doubt they will do that.

That doesn't even matters btw

I don't see Petersson in habs uniform, I see the Vancouver Canucks been in a hard spot trying to keep both of them and needed to loose key prospects and draft picks
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Umm, I guess you never watched Byron this year, or Loui in any of his previous seasons with Vancouver.

Anyways, we can both agree that anyone trying to trade Byron to Ottawa are complete idiots.


I mean if Bergevin goes all in, i could see Byron traded, but the place is unknown yet and it will depends of the off season
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Umm, I guess you never watched Byron this year, or Loui in any of his previous seasons with Vancouver.

Anyways, we can both agree that anyone trying to trade Byron to Ottawa are complete idiots.


There was a time when Byron was pretty good.

From 16/17 to 18/19 Byron scored at a 1.04 goals per 60 rate, very close to what Connor Brown scored at this season, but the last two seasons, he's been at 0.50 goals per 60, very close to the rate Michael Raffl scored at. Byron is 32, in decline, and it's not getting better, and could become worse over the next two seasons. It's a shame because he was such a valuable player, in 18/19.

Cheers
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There was a time when Byron was pretty good.

From 16/17 to 18/19 Byron scored at a 1.04 goals per 60 rate, very close to what Connor Brown scored at this season, but the last two seasons, he's been at 0.50 goals per 60, very close to the rate Michael Raffl scored at. Byron is 32, in decline, and it's not getting better, and could become worse over the next two seasons. It's a shame because he was such a valuable player, in 18/19.

Cheers


But he's still usefull due to his speed, his work ethic and his defensive play

So don'T say that he's useless

The only issue it's his contract, which was based on his 20 goals season and not his future, but he's a good player in every team.
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Quoting: nepTrystan
This is next season, not this season xD

They need to sign Petersson and Huges RIGHT NOW , not next season lmao


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There was a time when Byron was pretty good.

From 16/17 to 18/19 Byron scored at a 1.04 goals per 60 rate, very close to what Connor Brown scored at this season, but the last two seasons, he's been at 0.50 goals per 60, very close to the rate Michael Raffl scored at. Byron is 32, in decline, and it's not getting better, and could become worse over the next two seasons. It's a shame because he was such a valuable player, in 18/19.

Cheers

They got 24 mill THIS offseason
Far enough to sign both hun
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They got 24 mill THIS offseason
Far enough to sign both hun


https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks

Projected cap space : 15,174,431

SO stop fooling around because you just annoying us

the 24 m it's next season due to all of their bad contracts ending in 2022 (Eriksson, Roussel, Virtanen, Holtby, Beagle, end of paying the buyout penalty on Luongo)
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There was a time when Byron was pretty good.

From 16/17 to 18/19 Byron scored at a 1.04 goals per 60 rate, very close to what Connor Brown scored at this season, but the last two seasons, he's been at 0.50 goals per 60, very close to the rate Michael Raffl scored at. Byron is 32, in decline, and it's not getting better, and could become worse over the next two seasons. It's a shame because he was such a valuable player, in 18/19.

Cheers


Michael Raffl isn’t a bad player, and he also doesn’t have the defensive acumen Byron has. (Also he has the same goals per 60 as Jordan Staal, Alexandre Texier, and Radek Faksa, and more than Jamie Benn, Victor Olofsson, and Bo Horvat) Just because he doesn’t score 20 goals a year anymore doesn’t mean that he isn’t valuable to his team. He’s great defensively and a great leader for the habs. I can 100% understand why the Sens wouldn’t trade for him because they already have a tonne of 3rd liners in their organization, but you’re clearly blinded by anger at the people we both agree are idiots. Loui Eriksson is just beyond terrible in every facet of the game other than maybe goal-scoring, of which he has a 20% fewer goals per 60 than Byron in the past 2 years.
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But he's still usefull due to his speed, his work ethic and his defensive play

So don'T say that he's useless

The only issue it's his contract, which was based on his 20 goals season and not his future, but he's a good player in every team.


No he isn't. The $3.4MM in cap space could be allocated better. $3.4MM AAV is 3C money which is way too much for a 4W that is meh on PK. If Byron made $1MM AAV, then he'd be a suitable healthy scratch, injury replacement, at his current levels of contribution.

Players get old, it happens.
 
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