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Tarasenko Dumba

Créé par: Frankcarp21
Équipe: 2021-22 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2021
Publié: 9 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
33 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
SEA
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
Détails additionnels:
Expansion
2.
MIN
  1. Patrick, Nolan
  2. Zamula, Yegor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
3.
STL
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Voracek, Jakub
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
4.
PHI
NJD
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Rachats de contrats
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2021
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2022
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Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de STL
2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $59 993 095 $0 $1 450 000 $21 506 905 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
820 000 $820 000 $
C
RFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 075 000 $1 075 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
RFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
DG, AG
UFA - 1

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9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 25
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Yikes, that is quite the overpay for Tarasenko...
9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 31
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At least you made a fair, & good offer proposal for dumba compare to other teams fans who keep insisting wild are just going to lose him, so wild should just take whatever is offered
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Yikes, that is quite the overpay for Tarasenko...


I'm not so sure it is. Voracek is good but costs more for an extra year and is older and Frost is now in his draft + 4 season with hardly any nhl experience, so is mostly unproven.
9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Frankcarp21
I'm not so sure it is. Voracek is good but costs more for an extra year and is older and Frost is now in his draft + 4 season with hardly any nhl experience, so is mostly unproven.


Voracek has been better than Tarasenko and only makes $750k more and Tarasenko wants out so you lose some leverage there...its a HUGE overpay.
9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Voracek has been better than Tarasenko and only makes $750k more and Tarasenko wants out so you lose some leverage there...its a HUGE overpay.


Just because a player requests a trade, that doesn't mean there value turns to nothing... Not like we're at the deadline and they have to sell today. They will field offers from tons of teams, you have to spend to get good players. Tarasenko is the better player in this trade, he has just been hurt. Getting the surgery he finally needs, he is primed to bounce back. Frost doesn't have the same value that he used to, he is an unproven prospect who is way behind schedule now.
9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: Frankcarp21
Just because a player requests a trade, that doesn't mean there value turns to nothing... Not like we're at the deadline and they have to sell today. They will field offers from tons of teams, you have to spend to get good players. Tarasenko is the better player in this trade, he has just been hurt. Getting the surgery he finally needs, he is primed to bounce back. Frost doesn't have the same value that he used to, he is an unproven prospect who is way behind schedule now.


So Tarasenko being hurt and getting healthy is good but we aren't going to say the same with Frost...got it!
9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 47
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So Tarasenko being hurt and getting healthy is good but we aren't going to say the same with Frost...got it!


You don't say the same for Frost because he has zero track record. When he was healthy, he was sent down...
9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Voracek has been better than Tarasenko and only makes $750k more and Tarasenko wants out so you lose some leverage there...its a HUGE overpay.


As a Blues fan, I want nothing to do with Voracek and his cap hit so let's all just agree to go elsewhere.
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9 juill. 2021 à 14 h 57
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To be honest, and this is just due to my personal preferences on the types of players they are. But I would rather have Frost coming back over Patrick for Dumba.

Either way, Wild accept. Good trade for both sides.

Well done! 👍
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9 juill. 2021 à 15 h 15
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Fair for Gostisbehere. If we move Butcher, or lose him to expansion, I could see it.
Maybe take Voracek out of Tarasenko offer...I think Blues would want to reduce salary.
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9 juill. 2021 à 15 h 19
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Fair for Gostisbehere. If we move Butcher, or lose him to expansion, I could see it.
Maybe take Voracek out of Tarasenko offer...I think Blues would want to reduce salary.


Voracek has to be the main piece if it happens, we wouldnt have the cap. If not, we can't be involved, which is the most likely outcome. Just a dream
9 juill. 2021 à 15 h 21
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Quoting: Chooch
As a Blues fan, I want nothing to do with Voracek and his cap hit so let's all just agree to go elsewhere.


I'm guessing you don't know much about him then.
9 juill. 2021 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Frankcarp21
You don't say the same for Frost because he has zero track record. When he was healthy, he was sent down...


Actually he got hurt playing in the NHL but ok...
9 juill. 2021 à 15 h 24
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Actually he got hurt playing in the NHL but ok...


He made it 1.5 games into the season but ok lmao. Listen, not saying hes bad, but he is unproven. You really can't even argue that.
9 juill. 2021 à 15 h 27
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He made it 1.5 games into the season but ok lmao. Listen, not saying hes bad, but he is unproven. You really can't even argue that.


And Tarasenko has shoulder problems. Voracek and Tarasenko are basically worth the same but i'd sprinkle in something small to account for the cap difference but not 13OA and Frost. A 2nd or 3rd at most!
9 juill. 2021 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I'm guessing you don't know much about him then.


I know how good Voracek is. I don't want him at ages 32-34 making $8.5m per for the Blues though. Another team might.
9 juill. 2021 à 16 h 5
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Quoting: Chooch
I know how good Voracek is. I don't want him at ages 32-34 making $8.5m per for the Blues though. Another team might.


You are in win now mode and Voracek has had no drop off production wise. Most if not all other teams are gonna offer picks/prospects imo. And he makes $8,25 not $8.5
 
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