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Créé par: zreich4
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 8 juill. 2021
Publié: 8 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
48 000 000 $
66 250 000 $
1800 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
11 100 000 $
11 250 000 $
11 250 000 $
Transactions
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WSH
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
2.
MIN
SEA
  1. Beckman, Adam
  2. Parise, Zach
  3. Rask, Victor
  4. Soucy, Carson
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Parise buy out
3.
STL
  1. Greenway, Jordan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
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UFA - 5
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
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UFA - 3
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811 667 $811 667 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
UFA - 2
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
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UFA - 2
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
D
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
RFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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8 juill. 2021 à 0 h 28
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blues will want more if they are trading inter division
8 juill. 2021 à 0 h 36
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Quoting: xercuses
blues will want more if they are trading inter division


I’m seeing his value all over the place right now. What do you think his value is?
8 juill. 2021 à 0 h 48
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big fan of greenway. i would proabably do it
8 juill. 2021 à 3 h 33
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Quoting: Blues4TheCup
big fan of greenway. i would proabably do it



Blues probably would, too.
8 juill. 2021 à 7 h 13
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You're paying three good players, a prospect, and three decent picks to dump four years of Parise, who has 64 points over the last two seasons, and pick up Tarasenko, who has 24. That could be a one for one.

Kuznetsov has 81 in that span, more than anyone on the WIld except Fiala. Take all the sweeteners out of your Parise for Tarasenko three way and I think you've got a great Kuznetsov offer.
8 juill. 2021 à 10 h 14
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Quoting: Eli
You're paying three good players, a prospect, and three decent picks to dump four years of Parise, who has 64 points over the last two seasons, and pick up Tarasenko, who has 24. That could be a one for one.


Sorry are you suggesting Parise for Tarasenko 1-1?
8 juill. 2021 à 17 h 40
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Sorry are you suggesting Parise for Tarasenko 1-1?


I am. They're both paid to score goals. Over the last four years, the old guy has 75 goals. The younger guy with the rumored trade request has 73.

The old guy is owed $10M over four years. The young guy scoring at the slightly slower pace is owed $15M over just two years. So the Blues probably get the same amount of goals for less money, while the Wild get a Russian RW to play opposite Kaprizov instead of a hometown LW stuck behind him.

The sticking point is that if Parise slows down after two years, STL needs to know he'll waive for a rebuilding team at that point, because his 1M salary and 7.5M cap hit the last two years would let an Arizona or an Ottawa spend 6.5M below the floor, but if he's not willing to go there, STL could end up stuck with his cap hit. But the Wild could sell that to Parise as a trade-off: we'll give you two years on a contender if you're willing to let them move your contract after that.
8 juill. 2021 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: Eli
I am. They're both paid to score goals. Over the last four years, the old guy has 75 goals. The younger guy with the rumored trade request has 73.

The old guy is owed $10M over four years. The young guy scoring at the slightly slower pace is owed $15M over just two years. So the Blues probably get the same amount of goals for less money, while the Wild get a Russian RW to play opposite Kaprizov instead of a hometown LW stuck behind him.

The sticking point is that if Parise slows down after two years, STL needs to know he'll waive for a rebuilding team at that point, because his 1M salary and 7.5M cap hit the last two years would let an Arizona or an Ottawa spend 6.5M below the floor, but if he's not willing to go there, STL could end up stuck with his cap hit. But the Wild could sell that to Parise as a trade-off: we'll give you two years on a contender if you're willing to let them move your contract after that.


Yeah I mean that an incredible no brainer for MN and an instant no by STL. It’s beyond lopsided.
8 juill. 2021 à 20 h 37
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Yeah I mean that an incredible no brainer for MN and an instant no by STL. It’s beyond lopsided.


Over the last two years, Parise got 64 points. Tarasenko got 24.

Over the last two years, Parise scored 32 goals. Tarasenko scored seven.

Age is important but so is consistency, and right now Parise's a more consistent hockey player than Tarasenko. That's without even looking at defense.
8 juill. 2021 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: Eli
Over the last two years, Parise got 64 points. Tarasenko got 24.

Over the last two years, Parise scored 32 goals. Tarasenko scored seven.

Age is important but so is consistency, and right now Parise's a more consistent hockey player than Tarasenko. That's without even looking at defense.


Go make a STL armchair GM that has this trade and see how it’s received.
8 juill. 2021 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: drmantalban
Go make a STL armchair GM that has this trade and see how it’s received.


I didn't say any Blues fans would like it. Just that it's fair.
8 juill. 2021 à 21 h 23
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I didn't say any Blues fans would like it. Just that it's fair.


But it’s not fair. Not even close.
9 juill. 2021 à 5 h 58
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But it’s not fair. Not even close.


Not even close? You must have a lot of good reasons. Go ahead...
9 juill. 2021 à 9 h 2
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Quoting: Eli
Not even close? You must have a lot of good reasons. Go ahead...


Term, age, and ability. Parise does not have it anymore. Tarasenko carries risk but he has upside. Everyone knows Parises 30 goal seasons are over. Tarasenkos may not be.

I’ll make an ACGM later today and you can see for yourself how horrible of a trade that is.
9 juill. 2021 à 17 h 53
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Term, age, and ability. Parise does not have it anymore. Tarasenko carries risk but he has upside. Everyone knows Parises 30 goal seasons are over. Tarasenkos may not be.

I’ll make an ACGM later today and you can see for yourself how horrible of a trade that is.


Quoting: drmantalban
Term, age, and ability. Parise does not have it anymore. Tarasenko carries risk but he has upside. Everyone knows Parises 30 goal seasons are over. Tarasenkos may not be.

I’ll make an ACGM later today and you can see for yourself how horrible of a trade that is.


Look, I know popular opinion is on your side on this one. You don't have to take that beating, either. I'm just pointing out that Parise keeps outscoring Tarasenko because I think Blues fans are talking like they're selling high on him, when what they're trying to do is cut bait.
9 juill. 2021 à 19 h 45
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Quoting: Eli
Look, I know popular opinion is on your side on this one. You don't have to take that beating, either. I'm just pointing out that Parise keeps outscoring Tarasenko because I think Blues fans are talking like they're selling high on him, when what they're trying to do is cut bait.


Yeah I just feel like examining the last two years in this context is the definition of cherry picking to support an argument. Parise has negative value. Tarasenko, while he may not have as much value as Blues fans think, still does have positive value.
 
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