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Créé par: Feelers4Ehlers

Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2021

Publié: 7 juill. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I saw an interesting trade on a different AGM team and I wanted to explore it more. Drouin I believe needs to get out of the francophone situation and the pressure that comes along with it in Montreal. Where there is pressure to bring in players that are francophones (speak both french and english for those who don't know). Coming to a place like Winnipeg where you would have a french speaking player with PLD and not be in the spotlight because of guys like Ehlers, Schiefele, Wheeler, Connor. I think it would be a great fit for him. But what is the cost? Drouin is still a heck of a player and the price would be high if not for his situation. Now I'm not saying he is only worth a 7th round pick but his price might come down quite a bit. I am interested to see what people think of my offer. Hab fans I'm interested to hear your thoughts as well. Also Good Luck tonight against Tampa. I will be cheering for the Habs!!

expansion protected list: (Wheeler waives his NMC)
Scheif, Ehlers, Connor, Lowry, PLD, Drouin, Appleton
Demelo, Morrissey, Pionk
Hellebuyck

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Pionk, Neal	7	4 875 000 $
McKenzie, Skyler	2	775 000 $
Kovacevic, Johnathan	2	815 000 $
Kehler, Cole	2	750 000 $
Dano, Marko	2	750 000 $
Green, Luke	2	750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Lewis, Trevor	1	815 500 $
Poolman, Tucker	1	800 000 $
Perreault, Mathieu	2	1 375 000 $
Comrie, Eric	2	850 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie	7	8 955 500 $
Sutter, Brandon	2	1 475 000 $
Rittich, David	2	1 175 000 $
Forbort, Derek	1	985 000 $
Haula, Erik	2	1 475 000 $

Transactions

WPG

Drouin, Jonathan (2 000 000 $ retained)

MTL

Berdin, Mikhail
Copp, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)

WPG

Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

ANA

Niku, Sami

WPG

Expansion Draft

SEA

Logan Stanley.

Rachats de contrats

Nathan Beaulieu: 416 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	80 759 813 $	145 122 $	1 100 000 $	740 187 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 5	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Wheeler, Blake 8 250 000 $8 250 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 3
Drouin, Jonathan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Ehlers, Nikolaj 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Vesalainen, Kristian 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 1	Lowry, Adam 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 5	Appleton, Mason 900 000 $900 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Perreault, Mathieu 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1		Sutter, Brandon 1 475 000 $1 475 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
	Haula, Erik 1 475 000 $1 475 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG UFA - 7	Hamilton, Dougie 8 955 500 $8 955 500 $ DD UFA - 7	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G UFA - 3
Heinola, Ville 863 333 $863 333 $ DG RFA - 3	Pionk, Neal 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DD UFA - 4
Samberg, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $ (250 000 $$250K) DG RFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Rittich, David 1 175 000 $1 175 000 $ G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Poolman, Tucker 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 4		Little, Bryan 5 291 667 $5 291 667 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 3
Forbort, Derek 985 000 $985 000 $ DG UFA - 3
Lewis, Trevor 815 500 $815 500 $ AD, C UFA - 1

7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 9

MakingHistory

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Thats no for MTL

7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 9

babybackribs

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Why is Winnipeg protecting Drouin and Copp?

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7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 15

Campabee

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I think a deal could be done if you went Copp + 1 of Chisholm or Beaur + 3rd but there are rumors going around that Drouin may be done with hockey all together. So not sure what to make of the situation.

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7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 21

Windjammer

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The Seattle and Montreal trades are bad for the Jets. I'd rather the Jets keep Stanley, so if it costs that much to keep Appleton, you let Seattle take him.

Copp on his own is more valuable than Drouin, so the Jets definitely shouldn't be adding their best goalie prospect and a 2nd. Winnipeg should have no interest in Drouin, he's not good enough for the top 6 and can't play bottom 6. The Jets are far better off giving Ves a shot.

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7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 45

Quillanrocks

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Firstly, your protection list is confusing. You are protecting BOTH Copp and Drouin, whom you are trading for each other. . . . Wut??? At first I just assumed that you meant to put Appleton's name there (since you feel Wheeler would be ok to waive his NMC and be left exposed), but then I noticed that you have the Jets parting with assets to PROTECT Appleton, and instead select one of either Harkins or Stanley, which isn't clear?? Huh??????

Secondly, Copp alone should be valued higher than Drouin at this point. That is a horrible deal for the Jets. And while the francophone thing won't be a big deal in Winnipeg, if Drouin needs a "pressure-free" environment, Winnipeg is not the place for him! Probably no Canadian market is!! Funny . . . he kind of "poo-pooed" his way out of a perfect pressure-less environment to start his career. Wonder if he wishes he could turn back time, seeing the team who drafted him en route to a second Stanley Cup.

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7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 48

Quillanrocks

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Quoting: MakingHistory

Thats no for MTL

No??? OMG, good luck getting a better return than that for Drouin elsewhere, then!! If Chevy traded those assets for Drouin, alone, he should tender his resignation simultaneously!

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7 juill. 2021 à 15 h 1

Feelers4Ehlers

Démarrer sujet

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Thanks guys for catching my mistake. I have corrected it.

7 juill. 2021 à 15 h 19

Feelers4Ehlers

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Quoting: Windjammer

If Drouin does keep playing I think the Jets should look at him and have some interest. Another highly skilled left hand shot LW when he has the right fit. The price to get him would be way less than it normally would. So why not now? Especially if you can have Montreal retain some salary. Also Ehlers and Drouin played together in Halifax and ripped up that league. Both scoring over 100 points. Maybe all that comes back. I'm willing to take that chance.

7 juill. 2021 à 15 h 47

Windjammer

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Quoting: Feelers4Ehlers

That's cool. I wouldn't touch him with a 100 foot pole. He's lazy, entitled, overpaid and not worth upsetting the locker room over. As I said with Scheifele, Wheeler, Connor, Ehlers, Dubois, Perfetti and Vesalainen all capable and all better than Drouin, he's not good enough to play in the top 6. Add to that, Drouin is terrible defensively and can't play bottom 6. So, he's just a waste of a contract slot.

It's too bad, I liked Drouin in junior, but this is all on him, so he has no one to blame but himself.

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7 juill. 2021 à 17 h 41

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Campabee

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Quoting: Windjammer

You obviously haven't seen Drouin play the last 2 years. He has turned the corner defensively often rushing back to help break up plays in the D zone. He has also been quite physical (for Drouin lol). When he was playing the last 2 season he wasn't lazy or entitled, and as for upsetting the locker room there has never been any reports of locker room issues with Drouin even when he was in Tampa. I am not saying the Jets should take a flyer on him just that he is not the same player that we got from Tampa. I hope he comes back and suits up for anyone (I would love to see him back on the Habs) but unfortunately I just think he is done with hockey at this point.

7 juill. 2021 à 18 h 2

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Windjammer

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Quoting: Campabee

Yeah that's cool. I meant lazy in the way that you see him for 4 or 5 games and then he's invisible for the next 10 or 20. It's just a lack of effort (lazy). He certainly acted entitled in Tampa, he's just not worth giving up good assets for at this point, to take the chance that he's going to act like a pro finally. It's not like he provides something that Winnipeg doesn't have.

Has there been any more news on him? It's too bad, I used to really like him.

7 juill. 2021 à 18 h 9

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Campabee

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Quoting: Windjammer

Not really Ducharme before game 3 vs Tampa said Drouin is getting the help he needs whatever that means is left open for interpretation lol

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