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Habs 2021-2022

Créé par: JGDD11
Date de création initiale: jui 6, 2021
Publié: 6 jui à 12 h 25
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Lehkonen, Artturi32 250 000 $
Poehling, Ryan2750 000 $
Fleury, Cale2900 000 $
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Perry, Corey1950 000 $
Caggiula, Drake1900 000 $
Danault, Phillip74 250 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie79 000 000 $
Saad, Brandon54 950 000 $
Transactions
MTL
    SEA
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
    Détails additionnels:
    Maybe need a sweetener depending on whether or not Drouin is going to play next year.
    Rachats de contrats
    • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    MTL
    TBL
    MTL
    CHI
    WSH
    MTL
    STL
    VGK
    PHI
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2023
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $80 519 227 $597 561 $1 475 000 $980 773 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Saad, Brandon
    4 950 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    863 333 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Caufield, Cole
    880 833 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    4 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    2 500 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Anderson, Josh
    5 500 000 $
    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Lehkonen, Artturi
    2 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    4 250 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    6 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    750 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    3 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Caggiula, Drake
    900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Perry, Corey
    950 000 $
    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    MTL
    Chiarot, Ben
    3 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Hamilton, Dougie
    9 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    894 167 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    6 250 000 $
    DD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Allen, Jake
    2 875 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Edmundson, Joel
    3 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Fleury, Cale
    900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    1 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    7 857 143 $
    DD
    UFA - 5

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Caufield, C.
    Suzuki, N.
    Gallagher, B.
    Hamilton, D.
    Petry, J.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Anderson, J.
    Kotkaniemi, J.
    Poehling, R.
    Toffoli, T.
    Romanov, A.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Danault, P.
    Lehkonen, A.
    Chiarot, B.
    Hamilton, D.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Evans, J.
    Byron, P.
    Edmundson, J.
    Petry, J.

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    6 jui à 12 h 36
    #1
    Rejoint: nov 2019
    Messages: 79
    Mentions "j'aime": 33
    I’m not a fan of giving up a first for Seattle to take Drouin - even if it does clear cap space. Drouin is a perennial 50 point player on a good contract. The pressure of Montreal was hard on him and anywhere else I think he continues to be a 50-60 point guy without that pressure.

    Let Seattle take whoever they want and be done with it. The most I would use as a sweetener would be a 3rd round pick. It’s still a pick with value and if it does sway them to take player X over player Y then sure do it, but don’t let them push you around by handing out 1sr round picks to get “rid of” Drouin. I think you could still trade him for a 2nd or 3rd.
    Wreckless a aimé ceci.
    6 jui à 12 h 37
    #2
    Wreckless
    Rejoint: sep 2020
    Messages: 2,111
    Mentions "j'aime": 305
    Poehling is 2x$750k. Pretty straightforward deal for both sides.

    You’re not close for Danault, neither cap hit nor term.

    Montreal isn’t paying to trade Drouin. His contract doesn’t count against the cap while he’s away from the team.

    I agree that a Savard signing makes sense. Plus it takes from your chief rival. Not that they have any cap space to re sign people anyways right now.
    6 jui à 13 h 24
    #3
    Démarrer sujet
    It was 3-1
    Rejoint: mar 2018
    Messages: 225
    Mentions "j'aime": 100
    Quoting: Lochness1202
    I’m not a fan of giving up a first for Seattle to take Drouin - even if it does clear cap space. Drouin is a perennial 50 point player on a good contract. The pressure of Montreal was hard on him and anywhere else I think he continues to be a 50-60 point guy without that pressure.

    Let Seattle take whoever they want and be done with it. The most I would use as a sweetener would be a 3rd round pick. It’s still a pick with value and if it does sway them to take player X over player Y then sure do it, but don’t let them push you around by handing out 1sr round picks to get “rid of” Drouin. I think you could still trade him for a 2nd or 3rd.


    Quoting: Wreckless
    Poehling is 2x$750k. Pretty straightforward deal for both sides.

    You’re not close for Danault, neither cap hit nor term.

    Montreal isn’t paying to trade Drouin. His contract doesn’t count against the cap while he’s away from the team.

    I agree that a Savard signing makes sense. Plus it takes from your chief rival. Not that they have any cap space to re sign people anyways right now.


    On Drouin:
    Given how well the four d’s have played this playoff, I’m not comfortable exposing any of them, so we either go 8 skaters and expose valuable depth pieces like Lehky and Evans or we go 7-3-1 and expose Chiarot or Edmundson. On top of that, we do not know if Drouin will even play next year, and that uncertainty may make Seattle hesitant to take him straight on, passing up on the aforementioned Evans, Lehkonen, or Chiarot/Edmundson.

    On Danault:
    Yeah I may change it to 6x$5 mil, but that’s my max. I compare danault to JG Pageau and Anthony Cirelli, but Danault doesn’t nearly have the offensive upside of those other two. Just a little hesitant to give up that amount of money for a guy who’s really struggled to score these past couple years, but after what he’s done this playoffs, I’ll bite.
    6 jui à 13 h 29
    #4
    Wreckless
    Rejoint: sep 2020
    Messages: 2,111
    Mentions "j'aime": 305
    Quoting: JGDD11
    On Drouin:
    Given how well the four d’s have played this playoff, I’m not comfortable exposing any of them, so we either go 8 skaters and expose valuable depth pieces like Lehky and Evans or we go 7-3-1 and expose Chiarot or Edmundson. On top of that, we do not know if Drouin will even play next year, and that uncertainty may make Seattle hesitant to take him straight on, passing up on the aforementioned Evans, Lehkonen, or Chiarot/Edmundson.

    On Danault:
    Yeah I may change it to 6x$5 mil, but that’s my max. I compare danault to JG Pageau and Anthony Cirelli, but Danault doesn’t nearly have the offensive upside of those other two. Just a little hesitant to give up that amount of money for a guy who’s really struggled to score these past couple years, but after what he’s done this playoffs, I’ll bite.


    Not close on Danault meaning way too high, not slightly too low.
    6 jui à 13 h 30
    #5
    Démarrer sujet
    It was 3-1
    Rejoint: mar 2018
    Messages: 225
    Mentions "j'aime": 100
    Quoting: Wreckless
    Not close on Danault meaning way too high, not slightly too low.


    Yeah I agree with that. Realistically I’d like around 4, but it’s UFA market and you gotta overpay.

    Just wondering, what would you value him at?
    7 jui à 15 h 20
    #6
    Wreckless
    Rejoint: sep 2020
    Messages: 2,111
    Mentions "j'aime": 305
    Quoting: JGDD11
    Yeah I agree with that. Realistically I’d like around 4, but it’s UFA market and you gotta overpay.

    Just wondering, what would you value him at?


    $25mm over 8 years front end loaded with signing bonus money same NTC as Gallagher. Comes to $3.125mm cap hit.
    Or 5x$3.5mm, slightly more than Adama Lowry’s post Covid deal, as I think Danault is slightly more valuable than Lowry, but not much more. $17.5mm total contract value.
    Or 4x$4mm. $16mm total contract value.
    In no scenario would I offer Danault a higher cap hit than Toffoli.

    Just my opinion, fwiw.
    7 jui à 17 h 30
    #7
    Démarrer sujet
    It was 3-1
    Rejoint: mar 2018
    Messages: 225
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    Quoting: Wreckless
    $25mm over 8 years front end loaded with signing bonus money same NTC as Gallagher. Comes to $3.125mm cap hit.
    Or 5x$3.5mm, slightly more than Adama Lowry’s post Covid deal, as I think Danault is slightly more valuable than Lowry, but not much more. $17.5mm total contract value.
    Or 4x$4mm. $16mm total contract value.
    In no scenario would I offer Danault a higher cap hit than Toffoli.

    Just my opinion, fwiw.


    Yeah I agree with that. Realistically I’d like him on the 4x4, but I just think some team will give him >5, whether that be montreal or someone else.
    7 jui à 17 h 33
    #8
    Wreckless
    Rejoint: sep 2020
    Messages: 2,111
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    Quoting: JGDD11
    Yeah I agree with that. Realistically I’d like him on the 4x4, but I just think some team will give him >5, whether that be montreal or someone else.


    A fool GM and their cap space are soon parted. Anyone who pays Danault that will likely regret it within the first season. And their team likely won’t project to be very good.

    That said, we see mistake after mistake each UFA signing day (not so much last year though), so it’s entirely possible that this year will not be different.
    7 jui à 17 h 35
    #9
    Démarrer sujet
    It was 3-1
    Rejoint: mar 2018
    Messages: 225
    Mentions "j'aime": 100
    Quoting: Wreckless
    A fool GM and their cap space are soon parted. Anyone who pays Danault that will likely regret it within the first season. And their team likely won’t project to be very good.


    Yep, but that’s the NHL for ya, but there definitely will be some schmuck that does it.
     
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