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Interesting Kings trade

Créé par: kedogs00
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2021
Publié: 24 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Draft:

#1 - Power

#8 In order of who I'd pick if available,

Eklund (most likely gone), Clarke (most likely gone), Guenther, Johnson, McTavish

Captaincy:

C- Vacant
A- Risto
A- Cozens
A- Tkachuk
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
25 250 000 $
21 950 000 $
21 950 000 $
21 875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 350 000 $
11 250 000 $
24 250 000 $
22 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Dubé, Dillon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Tkachuk, Matthew
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
2.
BUF
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Sabres get #8
LAK
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Kings get #12
3.
BUF
SEA
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus
  2. Miller, Colin
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
4.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
Logo de BUF
Logo de LAK
Logo de BUF
Logo de BOS
Logo de FLA
Logo de BUF
Logo de MTL
Logo de BUF
Logo de COL
Logo de BUF
2022
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
2023
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $63 408 083 $113 916 $1 700 000 $18 091 917 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
889 166 $889 166 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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24 juin 2021 à 9 h 0
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PIT accepts.
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 18
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Pens say yes
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 20
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In your mind, the difference between Sam Reinhart and Gabe Vilardi is 4 draft spots in a bad draft?

Ristolainen has almost begged to leave for 3 years and you keep him and give him a letter in his walk year?

What is your plan to keep Tkachuk past his final RFA season?
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 20
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Do you have vilardi over turcotte?
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24 juin 2021 à 9 h 21
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Quoting: sabres89
Do you have vilardi over turcotte?


I dont think Kings give up Turcotte in this deal, I'd rather Turcotte
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 22
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Tkachuk would make a really interesting and imo valid captain especially as he matures, for such a rambunctious player he's so poised and articulate

Kinda becomes the heart & soul of teams too

My vote's for him especially with no clear cut options
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 23
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Definitely an interesting trade good job there

I'd go with lak winning it ultimately

Seems doubtful Vilardi becomes as good as samson
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24 juin 2021 à 9 h 24
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
In your mind, the difference between Sam Reinhart and Gabe Vilardi is 4 draft spots in a bad draft?

Ristolainen has almost begged to leave for 3 years and you keep him and give him a letter in his walk year?

What is your plan to keep Tkachuk past his final RFA season?


Risto has been the only player with heart on the team. He's not going to yield you a big return, so I'd rather him stick around another year. He's been wearing the A off and on and it's been well deserved.

My plan to keep Tkachuk would be sign him.... build around the nice young core, adding a couple top 10 picks/prospects.
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 31
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Risto has been the only player with heart on the team. He's not going to yield you a big return, so I'd rather him stick around another year. He's been wearing the A off and on and it's been well deserved.

My plan to keep Tkachuk would be sign him.... build around the nice young core, adding a couple top 10 picks/prospects.


What are you planning on offering tkachuk to pass up UFA? Keep in mind his qualifying offer is over 9 million next year.

Also, I really don't know what to say about your ristolainen opinion, I do not believe it is based in reality.

No answer about vilardi vs reinhart?
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 32
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The competition to see who becomes the #1C ultimately is really interesting and I'd wager a little bit on mittsy mostly as his odds would be lower

But it's kinds funny that he was 8th Coz 6th Vil 11th

For as much as he's looked underwhelming so far Cozens and Vilardi are actually on a similar trajectory as him and have posted pretty similar results so far

Getting overexposed in the NHL at a young age 😬

Vilardi with *much* better linemates than CM so far
24 juin 2021 à 9 h 35
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First 4 years after being drafted.

Reinhart: 65 goals, 75 assists, 140 points
Vilardi: 13 goals, 17 assists, 30 points

Difference is 4 slots in the draft though?
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 1
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
First 4 years after being drafted.

Reinhart: 65 goals, 75 assists, 140 points
Vilardi: 13 goals, 17 assists, 30 points

Difference is 4 slots in the draft though?


Ah, yes, the comparing of a players first 249 games to another players 64 career games.

Do I think it's full value for Reinhart, no, I don't.

But I am also taking many factors into consideration.

Such as he's an RFA, no guarantee he signs with the Kings for more then a year. He clearly wants out of Buffalo and we need to get the best offer for him. Would I rather see Turcotte over Villardi in this trade ? 100%. Do I think the Kings do it ? Probably not. I see potential in Vilardi to be a similar player to Reinhart. Yes, this draft is weak, no question, but there's been reports that the Sabres like/"know" this draft and want another top 10 pick. And as a Sabres fan for all my life, final factor.... it's Buffalo..... they've been known to make **** moves. This move wpuld certainly not fall into the "****" category though.

And by the way, since you wanted to compare numbers..... Between their first 2 seasons....

Vilardi 64 games 13 goals 17 assists 30 points (20.3% goals per game 46.875% pts per game) Could also show he clearly has a higher assists per game avg

Reinhart 88 games 23 goals 20 assits 43 points (26.1% goals per game 48.6% pts per game)


Very similar points expectancy
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 25
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I like Thompson, can't say no to that deal.
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 39
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Ah, yes, the comparing of a players first 249 games to another players 64 career games.

Do I think it's full value for Reinhart, no, I don't.

But I am also taking many factors into consideration.

Such as he's an RFA, no guarantee he signs with the Kings for more then a year. He clearly wants out of Buffalo and we need to get the best offer for him. Would I rather see Turcotte over Villardi in this trade ? 100%. Do I think the Kings do it ? Probably not. I see potential in Vilardi to be a similar player to Reinhart. Yes, this draft is weak, no question, but there's been reports that the Sabres like/"know" this draft and want another top 10 pick. And as a Sabres fan for all my life, final factor.... it's Buffalo..... they've been known to make **** moves. This move wpuld certainly not fall into the "****" category though.

And by the way, since you wanted to compare numbers..... Between their first 2 seasons....

Vilardi 64 games 13 goals 17 assists 30 points (20.3% goals per game 46.875% pts per game) Could also show he clearly has a higher assists per game avg

Reinhart 88 games 23 goals 20 assits 43 points (26.1% goals per game 48.6% pts per game)


Very similar points expectancy


The Reinhart situation is 1 year ahead of the tkachuk situation yet you trade eichel for him.

The fact that vilardi has played so little is, you know, the point
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 59
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Pittsburgh declines. Thompson doesn't bring anything to the Pens. He isn't a 3rd liner and they have plenty of guys to plug and play at 4th line. I'd rather keep a trusted backup goalie on a good deal.
 
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