SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

What the Leafs should do if they are going to tank next season

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2021
Publié: 13 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1874 125 $
1832 500 $
1832 500 $
1800 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
CGY
    Signing rights to Pending UFA Zach Hyman
    2.
    TOR
      Expansion Draft
      3.
      TOR
      1. Juolevi, Olli [Droits de RFA]
      2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
      3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
      Détails additionnels:
      There are no lottery protections on the 2022 1st round pick.



      The 2nd round pick is conditional.

      If the Canucks win the Stanley Cup in 2021/2022 or 2022/2023, the 2023 2nd round pick is upgraded to a 2023 1st round pick.
      VAN
      1. Rielly, Morgan
      Détails additionnels:
      The Jake Muzzin trade from January of 2019 as well as the Ryan McDonagh/JT Miller trade from February of 2018 are used as templates.

      Morgan Rielly is originally from Vancouver and his dad, Andy, is the longtime president of Rielly Lumber Inc on the west side.

      https://www.realcedar.com/about/members/rielly-lumber-inc/

      Rielly should have no issues signing an extension with the Canucks IMO.
      4.
      TOR
      1. Rodrigue, Olivier
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
      5.
      TOR
      1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (STL)
      6.
      TOR
        Based on this video by Steve Dangle, the Leafs forward group could be completely gutted this offseason.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVbvOlnqSs&t=902s
        OTT
          We'll see what happens :D
          7.
          TOR
            For what I think the Leafs will look like next season if they don't tank ...
            OTT
              please see this previous post of mine.

              https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2458374
              Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
              Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
              2021
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              2022
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de VAN
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de EDM
              Logo de STL
              Logo de CGY
              Logo de TOR
              2023
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de VAN
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              Logo de TOR
              TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
              2081 500 000 $66 636 408 $0 $532 500 $14 863 592 $
              Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
              AG, C, AD
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
              C
              UFA - 3
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
              AD
              UFA - 4
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              796 667 $796 667 $
              AG, AD
              RFA - 3
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
              C, AG
              NMC
              UFA - 4
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
              AD
              UFA - 3
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
              AD, AG
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
              C, AD
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              800 000 $800 000 $
              C, AG, AD
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              725 000 $725 000 $
              C
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              750 000 $750 000 $
              AG, AD
              UFA
              Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
              DG
              NTC
              UFA - 3
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
              DG/DD
              NTC
              UFA - 3
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              725 000 $725 000 $
              G
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              894 167 $894 167 $
              DG
              UFA - 1
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
              DD
              M-NTC
              UFA - 2
              Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
              795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
              G
              RFA - 2
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              874 125 $874 125 $
              DG/DD
              UFA - 2
              Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
              863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
              DD
              RFA - 1
              832 500 $832 500 $
              DG
              UFA - 1

              Code d'intégration

              • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
              • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

              Texte intégré

              Cliquer pour surligner
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 31
              #1
              Leafs
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: oct. 2020
              Messages: 42
              Mentions "j'aime": 9
              Not sure I understand...how is this team going to tank? They have two top 5 scorers and two more high level forwards plus a solid D core. At worst they would miss the playoffs by a little bit and end up with a middle pick, and have wasted a year of Marner, Nylander, and Matthews' contracts and Tavares' age
              capfriendlyaccount a aimé ceci.
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 37
              #2
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: juin 2020
              Messages: 1,125
              Mentions "j'aime": 304
              Are you dumb what kind of trade is that for Campbell the guy was litterally the best player in the Montreal series for the leafs ur stupid if you think the leafs are trading campbell.
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 44
              #3
              Démarrer sujet
              sensonfire
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: févr. 2021
              Messages: 11,894
              Mentions "j'aime": 4,466
              Quoting: Austons_Math_Youths
              Not sure I understand...how is this team going to tank? They have two top 5 scorers and two more high level forwards plus a solid D core. At worst they would miss the playoffs by a little bit and end up with a middle pick, and have wasted a year of Marner, Nylander, and Matthews' contracts and Tavares' age


              Within the last decade or so, teams with that level of talent have tanked before.

              It happens more frequently than you think.

              Examples:

              Oilers with McDavid/Draisaitl for 3 seasons
              Hawks with Kane/Toews/Keith/Seabrook for 2 seasons
              Capitals with Ovechkin/Backstrom/Carlson in 2013/2014
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 49
              #4
              Shibbal18
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: janv. 2016
              Messages: 25,253
              Mentions "j'aime": 9,042
              Edmonton declines imo. UFA goalies are deep
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 50
              #5
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: nov. 2020
              Messages: 1,406
              Mentions "j'aime": 961
              No first from Vancouver.
              PeterForsberg21 et yztnuK a aimé ceci.
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 52
              #6
              Démarrer sujet
              sensonfire
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: févr. 2021
              Messages: 11,894
              Mentions "j'aime": 4,466
              Quoting: Leafsfan16
              Are you dumb what kind of trade is that for Campbell the guy was litterally the best player in the Montreal series for the leafs ur stupid if you think the leafs are trading campbell.


              Campbell would get traded at next year's deadline if the Leafs tank and Campbell doesn't want to sign an extension.

              Trade is based on when Robin Lehner was traded from Chicago to Vegas with Toronto as the middle man.

              If the Leafs tank, Campbell being the best player during the playoffs against Montreal would be completely irrelevant next year.


              You're illiterate if you didn't bother reading the entire post and completely missed the point of it :/
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 52
              #7
              Shibbal18
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: janv. 2016
              Messages: 25,253
              Mentions "j'aime": 9,042
              Quoting: sensonfire
              Within the last decade or so, teams with that level of talent have tanked before.

              It happens more frequently than you think.

              Examples:

              Oilers with McDavid/Draisaitl for 3 seasons
              Hawks with Kane/Toews/Keith/Seabrook for 2 seasons
              Capitals with Ovechkin/Backstrom/Carlson in 2013/2014


              The oilers specifically didnt tank they were just bad
              Saskleaf et Gmonwy a aimé ceci.
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 53
              #8
              Go leafs go
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: avr. 2020
              Messages: 13,292
              Mentions "j'aime": 9,218
              If this team is going to tank, at the very least one of the core 4 would be traded, likely 2 or 3 (heck even all 4).

              This is a horrible idea, you are burn very valuable years off of Matthews and Marner's contracts. The worst part is this team might still make the playoffs and won't be in high contention for a top pick.
              13 juin 2021 à 15 h 53
              #9
              Démarrer sujet
              sensonfire
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: févr. 2021
              Messages: 11,894
              Mentions "j'aime": 4,466
              Quoting: Shibbal18
              Edmonton declines imo. UFA goalies are deep


              Trade is made at next year's deadline if the Leafs tank.
              13 juin 2021 à 16 h 1
              #10
              Démarrer sujet
              sensonfire
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: févr. 2021
              Messages: 11,894
              Mentions "j'aime": 4,466
              Quoting: Saskleaf
              If this team is going to tank, at the very least one of the core 4 would be traded, likely 2 or 3 (heck even all 4).

              This is a horrible idea, you are burn very valuable years off of Matthews and Marner's contracts. The worst part is this team might still make the playoffs and won't be in high contention for a top pick.


              Regardless of what happens to the Leafs over the course of the next 3 years, Matthews, Marner and Nylander will still be with the Leafs until they become pending UFAs.

              Also, Tavares has a NMC and is from Toronto, so he's not going anywhere.


              As long as tickets are sold out, Matthews/Marner/Nylander jerseys are flying off the shelves and Rogers/Bell are turning a profit, the core isn't going anywhere.
              13 juin 2021 à 16 h 7
              #11
              Démarrer sujet
              sensonfire
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: févr. 2021
              Messages: 11,894
              Mentions "j'aime": 4,466
              Quoting: BubbleDemko
              No first from Vancouver.


              A first will come from a trade with another team then.

              Vancouver is just an illustrative example.
              13 juin 2021 à 16 h 12
              #12
              Go leafs go
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: avr. 2020
              Messages: 13,292
              Mentions "j'aime": 9,218
              Quoting: sensonfire
              Regardless of what happens to the Leafs over the course of the next 3 years, Matthews, Marner and Nylander will still be with the Leafs until they become pending UFAs.

              Also, Tavares has a NMC and is from Toronto, so he's not going anywhere.


              As long as tickets are sold out, Matthews/Marner/Nylander jerseys are flying off the shelves and Rogers/Bell are turning a profit, the core isn't going anywhere.


              Oh, I agree they aren't going anywhere.

              Which means they aren't rebuilding. Rebuilding means you trade your best players for futures. And retooling (aka a small rebuild where you keep the core intact, in other words what you have here) makes no sense for the leafs based on the age of their core players.
              sensonfire a aimé ceci.
              13 juin 2021 à 16 h 16
              #13
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: nov. 2020
              Messages: 1,406
              Mentions "j'aime": 961
              Quoting: sensonfire
              A first will come from a trade with another team then.

              Vancouver is just an illustrative example.


              I am sure another team will give you a first. He is just not on Vancouver's immediate needs.
              13 juin 2021 à 16 h 28
              #14
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: juin 2018
              Messages: 1,587
              Mentions "j'aime": 744
              Toronto won't tank
              13 juin 2021 à 16 h 57
              #15
              STL
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: juill. 2019
              Messages: 3,622
              Mentions "j'aime": 1,639
              Why would Toronto tank? What??
              13 juin 2021 à 17 h 22
              #16
              Démarrer sujet
              sensonfire
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: févr. 2021
              Messages: 11,894
              Mentions "j'aime": 4,466
              Quoting: jwg314
              Why would Toronto tank? What??


              Within the last 10 years, there have been a few examples where a team had star players and they completely collapsed in the regular season.

              That's why.
              13 juin 2021 à 18 h 6
              #17
              Avatar de l'utilisateur
              Rejoint: mars 2017
              Messages: 784
              Mentions "j'aime": 282
              VAN just waits 1 year for Rielly to hit UFA and don't have to give up any assets for him.
               
              Répondre
              To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
              Question:
              Options:
              Ajouter une option
              Soumettre le sondage