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Créé par: JumboFett
Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2021
Publié: 8 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 200 000 $
21 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
33 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Eklund, William
3925 000 $
Lucius, Chaz
3925 000 $
Cossa, Sebatian
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Jones, Martin (2 875 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
2.
SJS
  1. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
PHI
  1. Gambrell, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
3.
SJS
  1. Parise, Zach (3 769 230 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
MIN
  1. Weatherby, Jasper [Liste de réserve]
4.
DAL
  1. Donato, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
5.
SJS
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
6.
SJS
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
7.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2022
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Logo de MIN
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $61 474 466 $0 $1 175 000 $20 025 534 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 108 696 $2 108 696 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
-3 019 230 $-3 019 230 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
796 667 $796 667 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 5
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA

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8 juin 2021 à 22 h 56
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Yeah I don't think the Wild are that stupid.

And why is Carolina trading a 2nd in 2022 and a 3rd to move up one spot this year in the mid 20s?
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8 juin 2021 à 23 h 1
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Quoting: Caerii
Yeah I don't think the Wild are that stupid.

And why is Carolina trading a 2nd in 2022 and a 3rd to move up one spot this year in the mid 20s?


High price to pay to get rid of a half retained Parise. We're honestly better off just buying him out if this is what it would take to trade him at half retention
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 2
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What is this... a Nolan Patrick trade for ANTS??!

The real return has to be at least... 3x as big as this!

So that was mostly an excuse to use that magical reference but yeah I'd say ~2x as Patrick's flaws are greatly exaggerated and Gambrell has awful corsi

Patrick still so young & trying to stabilize after chaos

Once he (likely) does should be quite good in prime
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: TanSor
High price to pay to get rid of a half retained Parise. We're honestly better off just buying him out if this is what it would take to trade him at half retention


His buyout is particularly unfavourable tho 😬

As far as buyouts go

Doesn't really fit their Kaprizov timeline either
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 4
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Just send us a draft pick and don’t give Donato a QO. We don’t want him at his QO price tag
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: Radu47
His buyout is particularly unfavourable tho 😬

As far as buyouts go

Doesn't really fit their Kaprizov timeline either


Everything is unfavorable, but his buyout is far more favorable than trading two firsts to move half his salary.
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: Caerii
Yeah I don't think the Wild are that stupid.

And why is Carolina trading a 2nd in 2022 and a 3rd to move up one spot this year in the mid 20s?


They'd be moving up 4 spots. Check the CapFriendly history of 1st rd position trades and you'll see the precedent for such a trade.


Quoting: TanSor
High price to pay to get rid of a half retained Parise. We're honestly better off just buying him out if this is what it would take to trade him at half retention


Start a MIN AGM team and buyout Parise. You'll see exactly how buyout proof his contract is. Trading for 1/2 retention is a SWEEEEEET deal.
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 7
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Quoting: JumboFett
They'd be moving up 4 spots. Check the CapFriendly history of 1st rd position trades and you'll see the precedent for such a trade.




Start a MIN AGM team and buyout Parise. You'll see exactly how buyout proof his contract is. Trading for 1/2 retention is a SWEEEEEET deal.

I would love to hear how you came to the conclusion that the difference between 27 and 26 is 4.
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 7
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Quoting: Radu47
His buyout is particularly unfavourable tho 😬

As far as buyouts go

Doesn't really fit their Kaprizov timeline either


Quoting: JumboFett
They'd be moving up 4 spots. Check the CapFriendly history of 1st rd position trades and you'll see the precedent for such a trade.




Start a MIN AGM team and buyout Parise. You'll see exactly how buyout proof his contract is. Trading for 1/2 retention is a SWEEEEEET deal.


I have, it's not bad at all after 4 years and we get rid of a headache. We're probably better off just keeping him here unhappy than a buyout, but if it came to it then I'd much rather do that than lose a ton of picks/prospects just to offload him. Besides, if he retires on the team we traded him to we'll be screwed with cap recapture anyways, which is WAY worse than buying him out.
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8 juin 2021 à 23 h 8
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Funny title as this AGM is detailed, clever and tactful

Unlike you know who 😏

Cap space is the essence of cap friendly 💧
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 12
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Quoting: Caerii
I would love to hear how you came to the conclusion that the difference between 27 and 26 is 4.


Dude, are you new? Draft position is relative to Reg Szn rank AND Playoff Rd exit. They're trading up from 23 to 19. Jumping up 4 spots in the 1st rd is expensive.
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 13
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Dude, are you new? Draft position is relative to Reg Szn rank AND Playoff Rd exit. They're trading up from 23 to 19. Jumping up 4 spots in the 1st rd is expensive.


Sorry, you think Pittsburgh's pick this season is 19th, and you're asking me if I'm new?
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8 juin 2021 à 23 h 16
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Quoting: TanSor
I have, it's not bad at all after 4 years and we get rid of a headache. We're probably better off just keeping him here unhappy than a buyout, but if it came to it then I'd much rather do that than lose a ton of picks/prospects just to offload him. Besides, if he retires on the team we traded him to we'll be screwed with cap recapture anyways, which is WAY worse than buying him out.


That may be true, IF he retires (which I doubt he would) but MIN is about to sign Kaprizov for an 8x8, and getting ~$4M off your cap for a couple 1sts is a meh draft is a boss move.
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 22
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That may be true, IF he retires (which I doubt he would) but MIN is about to sign Kaprizov for an 8x8, and getting ~$4M off your cap for a couple 1sts is a meh draft is a boss move.


There's a chance he might, the guy will is 36 and most players don't make it to 38-39, let alone 40 when his deal expires.

I doubt we sign Kaprizov to 8x8. He has reportedly been offered around this, but if he hasn't taken it already then I have a feeling he wants less term. My guess is we get him for around $7M x 5 years, maybe a little over $7M. Doesn't really matter, we have the cap to make that work without making any moves so why force a Parise trade and lose assets? That's just poor asset management. He signed the deal and if nobody wants him then he's just going to have to accept a smaller role here.
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8 juin 2021 à 23 h 26
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1) parise will never ever waive for a rebuilding team in San Jose

2) Wild don't need to get rid of Parise that much to give away two 1st round pick
8 juin 2021 à 23 h 29
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That may be true, IF he retires (which I doubt he would) but MIN is about to sign Kaprizov for an 8x8, and getting ~$4M off your cap for a couple 1sts is a meh draft is a boss move.


Nah, just because you, & others think it's a meh draft doesn't mean much

Wild have one of the best scout in the game now with judd brackett. As long wild have him, they will draft good players
 
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