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Another Marner trade

Créé par: JP_knows_it_all
Date de création initiale: 1 juin 2021
Publié: 1 juin 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
S.Jones wants OUT of CBJ, so they'll surely move him. TOR needs help on RD and Jones's a top2 pair. They get help in net to spread the workload evenly. Foligno comes back on a team friendly deal (bad playoffs, but can still be an effective 3rd liner). Forbott as insurance as a 6-7 D-Man. Dermott is OUT via Expansion Draft. Hyman is a tough read in the sense of what he'll command. I think he accept 4M$ AAV for 3-4 years. Robertson and Abramov steps in the top 9 with fresh legs and speed. Leafs still with more than 4M$ of free cap space for Reilly's extension in 2022-2023.

But all of this is wrong. Can't wait to read why, in the comments :D
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Malgin, Denis1750 000 $
Dermott, Travis21 400 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1750 000 $
Hyman, Zach34 000 000 $
Foligno, Nick12 000 000 $
Forbort, Derek11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Jones, Seth
  2. Korpisalo, Joonas
  3. 2022 3e round pick (TBL)
CBJ
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Anderson, Joey
  3. 2023 7e round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
    Expansion Draft
    SEA
    1. Dermott, Travis
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    TBL
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $77 261 227 $0 $400 000 $4 238 773 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TOR
    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Foligno, Nick
    2 000 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    3 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Abramov, Mikhail
    809 444 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    1 250 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Brooks, Adam
    725 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    CBJ
    Jones, Seth
    5 400 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    CBJ
    Korpisalo, Joonas
    2 800 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Forbort, Derek
    1 000 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Malgin, Denis
    750 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA

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    1 juin à 11 h 34
    #1
    Rejoint: févr. 2019
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    Hyman can easily get Anderson's contract... 5.5m x 7 years.
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    1 juin à 11 h 36
    #2
    Dekesaladekes
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    Every single one of those ufas are being underpaid. After Spezzas great season no way he signs for less then 2 mill and if you say he will stay to be on a cup contender then you are stupid toronto is a first round exit contender. Hyman can get 5-5.8 mil on the market don’t seem him taking a 1.8 mill discount. Foligno is still worth 3.5 mill with the leadership, physicality and net presence he brings. Forbort it will sign for close to 2 mill aswell, nice try though bud but no one is taking discounts for Toronto every realizes they are a bunch of choke artists now also no way after kerfoots playoff play that they take dermott over him. Dermott is not panning out, kerfoot was one of Toronto’s bring spots, Seattle will definitely take kerfoot or holl or Brodie whatever dman toronto leaves exposed
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    1 juin à 11 h 36
    #3
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    Quoting: clapperzzz11
    Hyman can easily get Anderson's contract... 5.5m x 7 years.


    You're probably right!...but not with the Leafs, though. Some players are after the money, some are not. I'm sure ARI or BUF will offer him that money, but does he wants to play there? Depends on the players perspective and preference. I say he'll want some playoff first round disappointment, so he'll stick with Toronto tears of joy
    1 juin à 11 h 37
    #4
    Voice of unreason
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    I think Hyman gets more term.
    If the Leafs are going to get a deal on him, they will make up for it with a 5-6 year contract.

    The Columbus trade has promise, but it leaves a gapping hole in our forward group. It might break the deal, but I'd need Roslovic as well.
    1 juin à 11 h 40
    #5
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    Quoting: Dekes
    Every single one of those ufas are being underpaid. After Spezzas great season no way he signs for less then 2 mill and if you say he will stay to be on a cup contender then you are stupid toronto is a first round exit contender. Hyman can get 5-5.8 mil on the market don’t seem him taking a 1.8 mill discount. Foligno is still worth 3.5 mill with the leadership, physicality and net presence he brings. Forbort it will sign for close to 2 mill aswell, nice try though bud but no one is taking discounts for Toronto every realizes they are a bunch of choke artists now


    Hahaha you are correct! I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I still think that players WILL take discount for Toronto, because history tells us that they'll do, even though they're "choke artists" as you said tears of joy Remember one thing, though : with the flat cap for another 2 seasons, there wont be many 5-6-7 M$ AAV contracts. Hyman's great, but I strongly feel like he won't get offers for 5+M$ AAV this summer.
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    1 juin à 11 h 43
    #6
    Let’s make a deal
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    Quoting: treemos27
    I think Hyman gets more term.
    If the Leafs are going to get a deal on him, they will make up for it with a 5-6 year contract.

    The Columbus trade has promise, but it leaves a gapping hole in our forward group. It might break the deal, but I'd need Roslovic as well.


    No shot you get roslovic. One of the few players in the league who wanted to be jackets before being traded there. You could maybe get domi but that’s a strong maybe.
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    1 juin à 11 h 45
    #7
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    Quoting: treemos27
    I think Hyman gets more term.
    If the Leafs are going to get a deal on him, they will make up for it with a 5-6 year contract.

    The Columbus trade has promise, but it leaves a gapping hole in our forward group. It might break the deal, but I'd need Roslovic as well.


    Be realistic, now. Roslovic just had a breakout season, for them, and is the surprise of the Dubois-Laine trade. He's also a local dude on a great deal. CBJ isn't trading him anytime soon. Jones for Marner is a pretty close deal, in itself. I'm still scared of what Jones will ask, when summer 2022 comes...9M$ AAV? More? Because if they do this trade and Jones doesn't sign an (affordable) extension right away, then it's a HORRIBLE trade for them!
    1 juin à 11 h 46
    #8
    Voice of unreason
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    Quoting: The_Cannon
    No shot you get roslovic. One of the few players in the league who wanted to be jackets before being traded there. You could maybe get domi but that’s a strong maybe.


    Fair enough. Thats where I see the deal breaking down. Leafs need an effective forward back as well. Losing Marner is a huge loss to the offense. They at least need an average top 6 contributer.
    Maybe they go after Blake Coleman or something.
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    1 juin à 11 h 48
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    Quoting: The_Cannon
    No shot you get roslovic. One of the few players in the league who wanted to be jackets before being traded there. You could maybe get domi but that’s a strong maybe.


    I'm with you here. Still, you can't add Domi to this exact trade and call it even. My point was to strenghten weak point in their line-up (RD and G). Korpisalo isn't godly, but I think Campbell-Korpisalo is a good tandem. Not great, but it doesn't have to be.
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    1 juin à 11 h 48
    #10
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    one of the more reasonable CBJ-TOR trades ive seen
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    1 juin à 11 h 50
    #11
    Voice of unreason
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    Quoting: JP_knows_it_all
    Be realistic, now. Roslovic just had a breakout season, for them, and is the surprise of the Dubois-Laine trade. He's also a local dude on a great deal. CBJ isn't trading him anytime soon. Jones for Marner is a pretty close deal, in itself. I'm still scared of what Jones will ask, when summer 2022 comes...9M$ AAV? More? Because if they do this trade and Jones doesn't sign an (affordable) extension right away, then it's a HORRIBLE trade for them!


    Ya fair enough. Thats where I think the deal breaks down. Jones is a good D-man, but he is overrated. I wouldn't even have him top 20 in the NHL. His fancies are pretty bad.
    1 juin à 11 h 52
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    Quoting: treemos27
    Fair enough. Thats where I see the deal breaking down. Leafs need an effective forward back as well. Losing Marner is a huge loss to the offense. They at least need an average top 6 contributer.
    Maybe they go after Blake Coleman or something.


    That's where they can use that 4.2M$ of cap space (5.1M$ if you send down Liljegren). It could net them a top6 on a short term deal (1-2 years). Coleman's a good option...maybe Hoffman or Tatar too? (yes, the latter's a horrible playoff performer, that's why I see him fit perfectly with the Leafs! tears of joy )
    1 juin à 11 h 53
    #13
    Let’s make a deal
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    Quoting: JP_knows_it_all
    I'm with you here. Still, you can't add Domi to this exact trade and call it even. My point was to strenghten weak point in their line-up (RD and G). Korpisalo isn't godly, but I think Campbell-Korpisalo is a good tandem. Not great, but it doesn't have to be.


    Right so adding domi who I would assume be half retained. And then adding someone in free agency would help fill the void left behind the tandem would be really good and the defense is even better.
     
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