SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Eichel to the KINGS that makes sense

Créé par: BOSSMAN
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2021
Publié: 15 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
66 000 000 $
21 350 000 $
21 050 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
55 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Clague, Kale [Droits de RFA]
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. Vilardi, Gabriel
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (STL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
2.
BUF
    Expansion
    3.
    BUF
    SEA
    1. Okposo, Kyle
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2021
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de STL
    Logo de FLA
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de COL
    Logo de BUF
    2022
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    2023
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    1781 500 000 $45 477 250 $113 916 $3 250 000 $36 022 750 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 550 000 $$2M)
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    925 000 $925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    889 166 $889 166 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 4
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2

    Code d'intégration

    • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
    • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

    Texte intégré

    Cliquer pour surligner
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 6
    #1
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2019
    Messages: 2,375
    Mentions "j'aime": 2,268
    Nope, doesn't make sense for LA.
    TrueCanuck a aimé ceci.
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 10
    #2
    Banni
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2016
    Messages: 33,053
    Mentions "j'aime": 8,999
    LA isn't surrendering both Turcotte and Vilardi for Jack Eichel, it's one or the other not both. And Reinhart is long gone as well he wont stay with the Sabres if Eichel is out the door.
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 11
    #3
    Démarrer sujet
    BOSSMAN
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2019
    Messages: 129
    Mentions "j'aime": 17
    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    LA isn't surrendering both Turcotte and Vilardi for Jack Eichel, it's one or the other not both. And Reinhart is long gone as well he wont stay with the Sabres if Eichel is out the door.


    wrong. Its either Byfield or Turcotte and Vilardi
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 11
    #4
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2017
    Messages: 4,076
    Mentions "j'aime": 1,939
    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    LA isn't surrendering both Turcotte and Vilardi for Jack Eichel, it's one or the other not both. And Reinhart is long gone as well he wont stay with the Sabres if Eichel is out the door.


    It starts with byfield. People need to stop acting like Eichel isn't a 24 year old franchise center.
    DiehardRedWingsFan58 a aimé ceci.
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 16
    #5
    Banni
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2016
    Messages: 33,053
    Mentions "j'aime": 8,999
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    wrong. Its either Byfield or Turcotte and Vilardi


    Good luck, because Byfield isn't happening and neither is Turcotte and Vilardi. And the Kings aren't an Eichel away from making a major playoff push. LA is still years away from being very competitive playoff team.
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 17
    #6
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mai 2021
    Messages: 941
    Mentions "j'aime": 606
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    wrong. Its either Byfield or Turcotte and Vilardi


    Turcotte and Vilardi might be a no go. Turcotte and Kupari maybe. It would really depend on other offers. Sabres would likely push for the 2021 1st either way.
    15 mai 2021 à 17 h 43
    #7
    Roster Architect
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2021
    Messages: 2,643
    Mentions "j'aime": 909
    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    LA isn't surrendering both Turcotte and Vilardi for Jack Eichel, it's one or the other not both. And Reinhart is long gone as well he wont stay with the Sabres if Eichel is out the door.


    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    wrong. Its either Byfield or Turcotte and Vilardi


    Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
    It starts with byfield. People need to stop acting like Eichel isn't a 24 year old franchise center.


    None of this makes any sense for LA. Eichel doesn't make sense for LA. The Kings already have centre prospects in the system that can be top 6 or even game changing talents. Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi would be off the table for LA to move for Eichel. A top centre isn't their need. They have the forwards to fit their rebuild, they'd only move their high end guys for a top poring left defenceman. It makes no sense at all to be going after Eichel and makes less sense for them to use Byfield, Turcotte, or Vilardi for it. I could see them using Turcotte for a high end defenceman that's already proven. But other than that, they'll stand pat
    15 mai 2021 à 18 h 15
    #8
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: févr. 2017
    Messages: 8,412
    Mentions "j'aime": 6,340
    I dont think we get both. Im good with turcotte plus a winger prospect.
    15 mai 2021 à 18 h 30
    #9
    Démarrer sujet
    BOSSMAN
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2019
    Messages: 129
    Mentions "j'aime": 17
    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    None of this makes any sense for LA. Eichel doesn't make sense for LA. The Kings already have centre prospects in the system that can be top 6 or even game changing talents. Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi would be off the table for LA to move for Eichel. A top centre isn't their need. They have the forwards to fit their rebuild, they'd only move their high end guys for a top poring left defenceman. It makes no sense at all to be going after Eichel and makes less sense for them to use Byfield, Turcotte, or Vilardi for it. I could see them using Turcotte for a high end defenceman that's already proven. But other than that, they'll stand pat



    None of those player will ever come close to what Eichel is, Jack was on pace for 40 goals and 95 points at 23 years old before covid hit, your telling me one of those 3 players will be able to do that? give me a break buddy. Vilardi is 22 years old and had 20 points this year and Eichel played hurt all year and still almost managed to put up more points than vilardi in less than half the games. what has Turcotte and byfield done at the NHL level to make you think they're so special or have a chance to become better that Eichel?
    15 mai 2021 à 18 h 55
    #10
    thewookie1
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2016
    Messages: 2,467
    Mentions "j'aime": 1,037
    For those saying the Kings are not an Eichel away from playoff contention you are very much wrong.

    You still have Anze Kopitar and a lesser Drew Doughty whom might feel more invigorated after the trade. Eichel’s 24 going on 25 not some 29 year old. Give us Byfield+ and make a playoff run. By the time Byfield and Turcotte are even close to Eichel, Kopitar will be gone and Doughty will be a $11mil pylon. It’s pushing your chips into the middle and going all in; it will effectively come down to LA’s management and how patient they want to be.
    15 mai 2021 à 19 h 14
    #11
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2017
    Messages: 4,076
    Mentions "j'aime": 1,939
    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    None of this makes any sense for LA. Eichel doesn't make sense for LA. The Kings already have centre prospects in the system that can be top 6 or even game changing talents. Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi would be off the table for LA to move for Eichel. A top centre isn't their need. They have the forwards to fit their rebuild, they'd only move their high end guys for a top poring left defenceman. It makes no sense at all to be going after Eichel and makes less sense for them to use Byfield, Turcotte, or Vilardi for it. I could see them using Turcotte for a high end defenceman that's already proven. But other than that, they'll stand pat


    Can be, and are, is a very big difference, and realistically none of them will develop to the level of Eichel. I don't want the sabres to trade Eichel, but it seems that they will be moving him. LA would be foolish to pass on him for Byfield, a first, and a few other pieces.
    15 mai 2021 à 19 h 36
    #12
    Roster Architect
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2021
    Messages: 2,643
    Mentions "j'aime": 909
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    None of those player will ever come close to what Eichel is, Jack was on pace for 40 goals and 95 points at 23 years old before covid hit, your telling me one of those 3 players will be able to do that? give me a break buddy. Vilardi is 22 years old and had 20 points this year and Eichel played hurt all year and still almost managed to put up more points than vilardi in less than half the games. what has Turcotte and byfield done at the NHL level to make you think they're so special or have a chance to become better that Eichel?


    Byfield has the potential to be a dominant centre that hits 100 points regularly. 40 goals wouldn't be out of the question and he's younger plus cheaper. Byfield dominated the world juniors as the youngest player there, and didn't look out of place one bit while playing AHL minutes as a teenager. That's rare. Why would LA trade that for Eichel? I never once said that Vilardi will be like Eichel. But Vilardi will be a great 2C with an effective 2way game while being able to put up 60-70 points. He fits that role better. Eichel wouldn't be the 2C. Turcotte tore up the AHL. Didn't look out of place either. I'm not saying that he wouldn't be traded, I'm saying that for Eichel it's pointless when they'll have Byfield at 1C, Vilardi at 2C, and Kopitar at 3C.. where does Eichel fit in that? Wouldn't be the 1C once Byfield gets going and hits his prime, Eichel's too good for a 2C and Vilardi is already on the team and fits that role perfectly, and Eichel would be a terrible 3C. That's why LA doesn't do it (in case you couldn't read my last comment), they don't do it because they don't need a centre. At all. Why would LA give up valuable assets for something they don't need when they can use it for something they do need?
    15 mai 2021 à 19 h 39
    #13
    Roster Architect
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2021
    Messages: 2,643
    Mentions "j'aime": 909
    Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
    Can be, and are, is a very big difference, and realistically none of them will develop to the level of Eichel. I don't want the sabres to trade Eichel, but it seems that they will be moving him. LA would be foolish to pass on him for Byfield, a first, and a few other pieces.


    LOL Byfield + a 1st + other assets is a major overpay. Eichel is good, don't get me wrong. But he hasn't proven that he can produce to that high elite level either. He had Hall and didn't do much. He had Skinner on a career year and didn't do much. He's in his prime and sure he's better now. But Byfield has the potential to be a dominant 1C and then refer to comment #12 for the rest of my opinion. LA doesn't need centres. Byfield fits their rebuild better and will be a core piece for longer than Eichel. LA needs a top pairing defenceman. They'd be much smarter using Turcotte to go get that than Eichel who's something they don't need.
    15 mai 2021 à 20 h 40
    #14
    Démarrer sujet
    BOSSMAN
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2019
    Messages: 129
    Mentions "j'aime": 17
    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Byfield has the potential to be a dominant centre that hits 100 points regularly. 40 goals wouldn't be out of the question and he's younger plus cheaper. Byfield dominated the world juniors as the youngest player there, and didn't look out of place one bit while playing AHL minutes as a teenager. That's rare. Why would LA trade that for Eichel? I never once said that Vilardi will be like Eichel. But Vilardi will be a great 2C with an effective 2way game while being able to put up 60-70 points. He fits that role better. Eichel wouldn't be the 2C. Turcotte tore up the AHL. Didn't look out of place either. I'm not saying that he wouldn't be traded, I'm saying that for Eichel it's pointless when they'll have Byfield at 1C, Vilardi at 2C, and Kopitar at 3C.. where does Eichel fit in that? Wouldn't be the 1C once Byfield gets going and hits his prime, Eichel's too good for a 2C and Vilardi is already on the team and fits that role perfectly, and Eichel would be a terrible 3C. That's why LA doesn't do it (in case you couldn't read my last comment), they don't do it because they don't need a centre. At all. Why would LA give up valuable assets for something they don't need when they can use it for something they do need?


    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Byfield has the potential to be a dominant centre that hits 100 points regularly. 40 goals wouldn't be out of the question and he's younger plus cheaper. Byfield dominated the world juniors as the youngest player there, and didn't look out of place one bit while playing AHL minutes as a teenager. That's rare. Why would LA trade that for Eichel? I never once said that Vilardi will be like Eichel. But Vilardi will be a great 2C with an effective 2way game while being able to put up 60-70 points. He fits that role better. Eichel wouldn't be the 2C. Turcotte tore up the AHL. Didn't look out of place either. I'm not saying that he wouldn't be traded, I'm saying that for Eichel it's pointless when they'll have Byfield at 1C, Vilardi at 2C, and Kopitar at 3C.. where does Eichel fit in that? Wouldn't be the 1C once Byfield gets going and hits his prime, Eichel's too good for a 2C and Vilardi is already on the team and fits that role perfectly, and Eichel would be a terrible 3C. That's why LA doesn't do it (in case you couldn't read my last comment), they don't do it because they don't need a centre. At all. Why would LA give up valuable assets for something they don't need when they can use it for something they do need?


    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Byfield has the potential to be a dominant centre that hits 100 points regularly. 40 goals wouldn't be out of the question and he's younger plus cheaper. Byfield dominated the world juniors as the youngest player there, and didn't look out of place one bit while playing AHL minutes as a teenager. That's rare. Why would LA trade that for Eichel? I never once said that Vilardi will be like Eichel. But Vilardi will be a great 2C with an effective 2way game while being able to put up 60-70 points. He fits that role better. Eichel wouldn't be the 2C. Turcotte tore up the AHL. Didn't look out of place either. I'm not saying that he wouldn't be traded, I'm saying that for Eichel it's pointless when they'll have Byfield at 1C, Vilardi at 2C, and Kopitar at 3C.. where does Eichel fit in that? Wouldn't be the 1C once Byfield gets going and hits his prime, Eichel's too good for a 2C and Vilardi is already on the team and fits that role perfectly, and Eichel would be a terrible 3C. That's why LA doesn't do it (in case you couldn't read my last comment), they don't do it because they don't need a centre. At all. Why would LA give up valuable assets for something they don't need when they can use it for something they do need?


    Byfield 100 points ? for Do you even watch hockey? Lmao, Lafreniere is so much better than him and he had 20 points this year, your lucky if Byfield gets 70 points in his 5th year
    15 mai 2021 à 20 h 51
    #15
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: févr. 2018
    Messages: 489
    Mentions "j'aime": 237
    Eichel to the Kings makes the most sense for Buffalo. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense for the Kings. Their current core's window is pretty much closed. A rebuild makes more sense than mortgaging their future to have a few more playoff runs followed by settling into mediocrity.
    16 mai 2021 à 8 h 49
    #16
    Roster Architect
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2021
    Messages: 2,643
    Mentions "j'aime": 909
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Byfield 100 points ? for Do you even watch hockey? Lmao, Lafreniere is so much better than him and he had 20 points this year, your lucky if Byfield gets 70 points in his 5th year


    Lol. Yes I watch hockey, I'm a scout actually. Scouted Byfield many times. & 100 points in his prime is definitely in the question. You say Lafrieniere is "better than him" which may be true right now, but there were many people that believe Byfield will have a better career. His combination of size, speed, and skill are very rare. That's lethal for 100 points
    16 mai 2021 à 12 h 10
    #17
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2017
    Messages: 4,076
    Mentions "j'aime": 1,939
    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    LOL Byfield + a 1st + other assets is a major overpay. Eichel is good, don't get me wrong. But he hasn't proven that he can produce to that high elite level either. He had Hall and didn't do much. He had Skinner on a career year and didn't do much. He's in his prime and sure he's better now. But Byfield has the potential to be a dominant 1C and then refer to comment #12 for the rest of my opinion. LA doesn't need centres. Byfield fits their rebuild better and will be a core piece for longer than Eichel. LA needs a top pairing defenceman. They'd be much smarter using Turcotte to go get that than Eichel who's something they don't need.


    Lmao off. No, it's not. A top ten player in the NHL that is 24. Go look how often those type of trades happen. I love how naive people are about prospects. Acting like the NHL draft is like the nfl's
    16 mai 2021 à 13 h 2
    #18
    Roster Architect
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2021
    Messages: 2,643
    Mentions "j'aime": 909
    Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
    Lmao off. No, it's not. A top ten player in the NHL that is 24. Go look how often those type of trades happen. I love how naive people are about prospects. Acting like the NHL draft is like the nfl's


    Byfield has been watched closely by NHL scouts since he was 15. Guys with his combination of size, soles, and skill are rare. He'll be a top 10 player by the time he's 24. Why spend valuable prospects and more money on Eichel when Byfield will be that in a better time for their rebuild? Stupid idea.
     
    Répondre
    To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
    Question:
    Options:
    Ajouter une option
    Soumettre le sondage