Bishop deal makes no sense. Why bring in a guy at 7 mil per over 5 years when you have Connor Hellebuyck in the wings? You're better off keeping Trouba and having Hellebuyck as your #1

Leads give up JVR for a second a a guy who may never make the playoffs? Let alone then you resign Dano? What?

If from Hellebuycks play you believe he can be a #1 in the next few years then MAYBE but I'm of the opinion that he won't be a #1 (at least of the caliber that we need/want) and Trouba is ideal to move while he's performing and on a great contract (He doesn't want to be here). We get a goalie who's prime aged and has demonstrated a league top 10-15 pedigree. Also, Jets have Comrie "in the wing" coming up in a few years (3 maybe) and at that point they'll be able to determine through competition who's the best fit. This makes the Jets WAY better now while moving a player playing at there ceiling, getting Spooner back for Hellebuyck adds offensive depth to our center core when/if Little has bad luck in the future staying healthy.
I think it makes alot of sense, Byfulgien and Wheeler aren't getting younger and the former especially can't be relied on as a factor in the 2-3 years it'll take for Helle to develope.

What's this foolishness about giving up Trouba for soon to be UFA in Bishop? You could argue that Hellbuyck is just a good goalie as Bishop at this time in their careers. A lot better value out there than Bishop at 7m.

Name the price on JVR - I was working off what I saw on other threads for presumed value. Absolutely admit that biases on players make it difficult to place accurate value - What I saw was a good prospect/possible nhler on a team like Leafs that are emphasizing youth developement now. (Dano is 41 points through 91 nhl games - for a prospect that kind of number should be expected to trend up especially in ideal conditions like Toronto, he was the principle piece in the Ladd trade for Chicago)

I see Trouba as a liability to hold onto past his bridge deal and since it's such an ideal cap to most teams while he's performing well I place impetus on trading him sooner than later. Bishop I believe is top 15 in goalies in NHL, whereas from what Hellebuyck has shown,I have no confidence that he will be. This isn't a firesale, we're getting a prime aged Goalie whose put up numbers to support superiority.
If you're of the opinion that Trouba is worth significantly more than Bishop then suggest an alternative trade that is closer to the fair value with Bishop.

Also the whole him being a UFA - I just assume people understand when a trade for a UFA is made by a team that's not driving at Playoffs that there is dialogue and understood UFA negotiation that they're interested in re-signing.

How does the Hellebyuck trade make sense at all? He'd go to Vegas if the trade supposedly happens after expansion, and Winnipeg loses him for nothing. If the trade happens before expansion, Boston loses him, so they basically gave away Ryan Spooner.

read the notes the continuity of time was pretty important in explaining that one - basically Winnipeg sends draft pick to protect Hellebuyck while exposing Lowry and the trade for Spooner was offseason after Expansion

Gee, I think if Winnipeg traded for Bishop, Bishop would understand that Winnipeg would be interested in signing him. Yes, I had that figured out, and you did too. And Bishop has a NMC, would he would to uproot from Tampa to go to Winnipeg in January, February, March of 2017. Most sane people wouldn't.

So Bishop won't come to Winnipeg because it's too cold for him... so a city like Winnipeg can't hope to garner the interest of any UFA and will be doomed to get what they draft and can keep until those players reach UFA status. I doubt Bishop wants to uproot period but Tampa is in a spot where they would need to do something to not lose Vasilevsky or Bishop so him traded for a good value back makes sense, if Bishop says not Winterpeg then so be it but I have to say there's not really anything supporting that at all. IT's the same nonsense rhetoric that was floating saying Trouba wouldn't go anywhere except for Detroit, It may be true but for the sake of Fantasy I'd say until it's actually got any degree of proof It's not worth factoring in.

Lesage: I can only assume that Bishop would not want to traded because he would prefer to make a playoff push without Tampa than Winnipeg. Yes and uprooting mid season mid be another factor in saying no to a trade.
Trouba: He has good value, though maybe it would be best for Jets to wait till summer to make a good deal. Lots of teams would be interested for a good player and modest contract next year. My thought Boston might have some good NHL near ready assets for the Jets. The rhetoric that Trouba would only sign with Detroit only came from one person on this site. Sure it might have been traded, but being an RFA, it was 90% that he would sign as a Jet, which is exactly what happened. And all that talk of him signing for 5, 6 million and more, well it was 3m.
Enstrom: He has a NMC. Can't really be traded and really can't be waived. His buyout would cost nearly as much keeping him. Might as well keep him for a year.

Palhal: Fair enough on Enstrom I didn't realize NMC kept them from being moved down also, I'd still consider a trade with salary retained (same situation on that as with Bishop) but you're right it really doesn't change much if they retain him (as the thread shows there's plenty of cap to spare). I just honestly hate his play and feel if they would/could commit to giving a guy like Beau the spot and time they'd be better for it in the long run, otherwise Enstrom is used as a crutch that takes reps from the others.
As far as Bishop being traded, I should clarify that it has not been lost on me that Bishop wouldn't chose to be traded if that was given as a reasonable offer. IF TB decides that they'd rather keep him and move Vasilevski then it's moot and tbf we've not seen a trade yet because it's not an easy situation. Plenty of talk happened with Dallas but as a Cap strapped team nothing came to fruition.
In a Fantasy sense and more so within the realm of possibility: Bishop could see Winnipeg as a team that has a bright future and has the cap flexibility to offer him what he deserves in term and $$$. Maybe he says he'd rather take one last run with TB and then LV is going to be home for his career, no one knows.
I was never meaning that YOU were specifically responsible for the Trouba rhetoric but in these threads waves of rhetoric form in the same way as that non-sense did. There's far more weight to be given to the Bishop situation because he is a UFA on NMC but the fact remains that we have to recognize "speculation" for what it is.