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Wouldnt be horrible

Créé par: stamkos91
Publié: 9 avr. 2021 à 12 h 5
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 29/116 (25%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Blues de St-LouisBlues de St-Louis

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 10 250 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 8 920 833 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hoffman, MikeBlues de St-LouisLNH40%2 400 000 $111---0000--
Bozak, TylerBlues de St-LouisLNH40%3 000 000 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Engvall, PierreMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 250 000 $111---0000--
Kerfoot, AlexanderMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-3 500 000 $111---0000--
Abramov, MikhailExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoJunior-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 329 167 $2348663510
Variation650 000 $011010
Final1 979 167 $ (↑)2349 (↑)67 (↑)36 (↑)10000

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Engvall, PierreMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-312 500 $111---0000--
Kerfoot, AlexanderMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-875 000 $111---0000--
Abramov, MikhailExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoJunior-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hoffman, MikeBlues de St-LouisLNH40%600 000 $111---0000--
Bozak, TylerBlues de St-LouisLNH40%750 000 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial387 533 $2044703511
Variation-162 500 $0-1-10-10
Final225 033 $ (↓)2043 (↓)69 (↓)34 (↓)11000
9 avr. 2021 à 15 h 3
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Yeah this is fine.

8/10
9 avr. 2021 à 16 h 22
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Yeah this is fine.

8/10



No, it's not. It's total garbage. We're not eating all that cap for Toronto. Less than zero chance. Way less.
9 avr. 2021 à 16 h 51
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No, it's not. It's total garbage. We're not eating all that cap for Toronto. Less than zero chance. Way less.


It's an upgrade for your team right now.

Hoffman is getting benched or buried.

You would rather have Kerfoot + Engvall over just Bozak. The cap retain means nothing. You aren't substantial buyers and that cap goes away this year.

This is very good for STL. It's not even a question.
10 avr. 2021 à 5 h 22
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Quoting: reelkena
It's an upgrade for your team right now.

Hoffman is getting benched or buried.

You would rather have Kerfoot + Engvall over just Bozak.

The cap retain means nothing. You aren't substantial buyers and that cap goes away this year.

This is very good for STL. It's not even a question.



1- Quite arguable. I'd say it's not.

2- He's getting traded, most likely.

3- No, I wouldn't.

4- Uhh the cap doesn;t end with this season. Kerfoot has another 2x3.5, and Engvall has another year, as well. This matters a whooooole lot, and I cannot imagine that this feature of the trade eluded you. Sneaky ain't gonna work here.

5- Keep Kerfoot and Engvall, and it's a deal. Otherwise, this is undoubtedly a horror show for the Blues, who need that coming cap space for far better, far more important players than a small 3rd line C who can't win faceoffs and doesn't hit.
10 avr. 2021 à 16 h 5
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1- Quite arguable. I'd say it's not.

2- He's getting traded, most likely.

3- No, I wouldn't.

4- Uhh the cap doesn;t end with this season. Kerfoot has another 2x3.5, and Engvall has another year, as well. This matters a whooooole lot, and I cannot imagine that this feature of the trade eluded you. Sneaky ain't gonna work here.

5- Keep Kerfoot and Engvall, and it's a deal. Otherwise, this is undoubtedly a horror show for the Blues, who need that coming cap space for far better, far more important players than a small 3rd line C who can't win faceoffs and doesn't hit.


1. You're wrong

2. Yeah, that's what we're doing.

3. You're wrong

4. wtf, sneaky. You said eating cap, which means retaining. Retaining ends this year. Paying for players on your roster isn't eating cap. Don't change meanings because you're trying to be sneaky.

5. We can much more easily find non homers to talk to about this trade and don't need your opinion.
10 avr. 2021 à 16 h 27
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1. You're wrong

2. Yeah, that's what we're doing.

3. You're wrong

4. wtf, sneaky. You said eating cap, which means retaining. Retaining ends this year. Paying for players on your roster isn't eating cap. Don't change meanings because you're trying to be sneaky.

5. We can much more easily find non homers to talk to about this trade and don't need your opinion.


Uhh eating cap is absolutely not limited to retention situations. And how could I possibly be wrong about my own preference? Good grief, Dunning-Kruger, you need to dial it waaaay back.
10 avr. 2021 à 16 h 37
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Uhh eating cap is absolutely not limited to retention situations. And how could I possibly be wrong about my own preference? Good grief, Dunning-Kruger, you need to dial it waaaay back.


It's certainly discussed differently when you're talking about taking bad contracts with term over a situation like this. And if you believe opinions can't be wrong because they are opinions then you're one of those people that still thinks the customer is always right and other archaic thoughts that went out when people were allowed to think for themselves.
11 avr. 2021 à 5 h 48
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It's certainly discussed differently when you're talking about taking bad contracts with term over a situation like this. And if you believe opinions can't be wrong because they are opinions then you're one of those people that still thinks the customer is always right and other archaic thoughts that went out when people were allowed to think for themselves.



Again, I said preference, not opinion. Stop trying to be clever. It ain't workin'.
11 avr. 2021 à 12 h 49
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Again, I said preference, not opinion. Stop trying to be clever. It ain't workin'.


lol trying to make that distinction is only trying to be clever.

but you can't pull that off either.

grow up.
11 avr. 2021 à 13 h 8
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It's terrible for the Leafs. Trading their 3rd and 4th line centres and only get one back in return. And Kerfoot and Engvall are playing well. Leafs have no centre depth.
Plus the Leafs have wait for five games for those two Blues to see NHL ice.
Not saying the Blues should make the deal either, But in no way this really helps the Leafs.
 
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