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Gallagher and Chiarot to LTIR Trade Options

Créé par: Campabee
Date de création initiale: avr 5, 2021
Publié: 6 avr à 1 h 49
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Players I would target to fill LHD and Winger holes left by Gallagher and Chiarot assuming both go on LTIR until the playoffs.
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MTL
  1. Fowler, Cam
ANA
    MTL
    1. Goligoski, Alex
    ARI
      MTL
      1. Hall, Taylor
      2. Montour, Brandon
      BUF
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        1. Bean, Jake
        CAR
          MTL
          1. Lindell, Esa
          2. Harley, Thomas
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            MTL
            1. Brown, Dustin
            LAK
              MTL
              1. Butcher, Will
              2. Palmieri, Kyle
              NJD
                MTL
                1. Leddy, Nick
                NYI
                  MTL
                  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
                  PHI
                    MTL
                    1. Dunn, Vince
                    STL
                      MTL
                      1. Edler, Alexander
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                        MTL
                        1. Heinen, Danton
                        2. Rakell, Rickard
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                          MTL
                          1. Garland, Conor
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                            • Karl Alzner: 3 958 333 $
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                            • Jordan Weal: 325 000 $ (1 400 000 $)
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                            TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                            2181 500 000 $137 871 586 $0 $3 850 000 $-56 371 586 $
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                            BUF
                            Hall, Taylor
                            4 000 000 $
                            AG
                            NMC
                            UFA - 1
                            ARI
                            Garland, Conor
                            775 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            RFA - 1
                            LAK
                            Brown, Dustin
                            5 875 000 $
                            AD, AG
                            NTC
                            UFA - 2
                            NJD
                            Palmieri, Kyle
                            2 325 000 $
                            AD, AG
                            NTC
                            UFA - 1
                            ANA
                            Rakell, Rickard
                            3 789 444 $
                            AD, AG
                            UFA - 2
                            ANA
                            Heinen, Danton
                            2 800 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            RFA - 1
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                            NJD
                            Butcher, Will
                            3 733 333 $
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                            UFA - 2
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                            Price, Carey
                            10 500 000 $
                            G
                            NMC
                            UFA - 6
                            STL
                            Dunn, Vince
                            1 875 000 $
                            DG/DD
                            RFA - 1
                            MTL
                            Allen, Jake
                            4 350 000 $
                            G
                            UFA - 1
                            VAN
                            Edler, Alexander
                            6 000 000 $
                            DG
                            NMC
                            UFA - 1
                            BUF
                            Montour, Brandon
                            3 850 000 $
                            DG/DD
                            UFA - 1
                            ANA
                            Fowler, Cam
                            6 500 000 $
                            DG
                            NTC
                            UFA - 6
                            ARI
                            Goligoski, Alex
                            5 475 000 $
                            DG/DD
                            NTC
                            UFA - 1
                            DAL
                            Lindell, Esa
                            5 800 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 5
                            CAR
                            Bean, Jake
                            863 333 $
                            DG
                            RFA - 1
                            DAL
                            Harley, Thomas
                            894 167 $
                            DG
                            RFA - 3
                            NYI
                            Leddy, Nick
                            5 500 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 2
                            PHI
                            Gostisbehere, Shayne
                            4 500 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 3
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                            Mete, Victor
                            735 000 $
                            DG/DD
                            RFA - 1
                            MTL
                            Suzuki, Nick
                            863 333 $
                            C, AD
                            RFA - 2
                            MTL
                            Chiarot, Ben
                            3 500 000 $
                            DG
                            NTC
                            UFA - 2
                            MTL
                            Evans, Jake
                            750 000 $
                            C, AD
                            RFA - 2
                            MTL
                            Staal, Eric
                            1 625 000 $
                            C
                            NTC
                            UFA - 1
                            MTL
                            Gallagher, Brendan
                            3 750 000 $
                            AD
                            NMC
                            UFA - 1
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                            Toffoli, Tyler
                            4 250 000 $
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                            UFA - 4
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                            Armia, Joel
                            2 600 000 $
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                            UFA - 1
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                            Kulak, Brett
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                            UFA - 2
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                            Romanov, Alexander
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                            Lehkonen, Artturi
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                            RFA - 1
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                            Perry, Corey
                            750 000 $
                            AD
                            UFA - 1
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                            Anderson, Josh
                            5 500 000 $
                            AD
                            UFA - 7
                            MTL
                            Weber, Shea
                            7 857 143 $
                            DD
                            UFA - 6
                            MTL
                            Edmundson, Joel
                            3 500 000 $
                            DG
                            NTC
                            UFA - 4
                            MTL
                            Petry, Jeff
                            5 500 000 $
                            DD
                            NMC NTC
                            UFA - 1
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                            Byron, Paul
                            3 400 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 3
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                            Tatar, Tomas
                            4 800 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 1
                            MTL
                            Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
                            925 000 $
                            C, AG
                            RFA - 1
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                            Danault, Phillip
                            3 083 333 $
                            C
                            UFA - 1
                            MTL
                            Drouin, Jonathan
                            5 500 000 $
                            AG
                            UFA - 3
                            Équipe de réserve
                            MTL
                            Lindgren, Charlie
                            750 000 $ (0 $)
                            G
                            UFA - 1
                            MTL
                            Frolík, Michael
                            750 000 $ (0 $)
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 1
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                            Baddock, Brandon
                            700 000 $ (0 $)
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 1
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                            Vejdemo, Lukas
                            700 000 $ (0 $)
                            C, AG, AD
                            UFA - 1

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                            6 avr à 2 h 12
                            #1
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                            Considering chiarot skated today I doubt he’s ltir. Brown or foligno would be awesome as someone with size and physicality along with Anderson would be perfect

                            As for the defence all those worth anything would cost way to much
                            6 avr à 2 h 23
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                            Quoting: Howisjulienstillhere
                            Considering chiarot skated today I doubt he’s ltir. Brown or foligno would be awesome as someone with size and physicality along with Anderson would be perfect

                            As for the defence all those worth anything would cost way to much


                            Chiarot also has a broken hand and was announced 6-8 weeks. Just cause he is skating doesn't mean he is even close to game shape. Because he is expected to be out 10+ games or 30+ days he is LTIR eligible. No idea why they have not used LTIR yet.
                            6 avr à 2 h 42
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                            No way Vegas will deal Theodore
                            6 avr à 7 h 03
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                            Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
                            No way Vegas will deal Theodore


                            Theodore was more wishful thinking on my part lol.ost of the players were linked to Montreal at some point this season and a couple were just wishful thinking lol.
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                            6 avr à 7 h 40
                            #5
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                            Duncan Keith is a big no
                            Theodore isn't coming unless we send Caufield, Suzuki ++
                            6 avr à 8 h 21
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                            Quoting: SevenLeg
                            Duncan Keith is a big no
                            Theodore isn't coming unless we send Caufield, Suzuki ++


                            Like I said above Theodore was more wishful thinking, I didn't put the list in any sort of order, I forgot Keith had term on his contract I was thinking it would be a rental situation lol. Because of the term I agree we shouldn't do it. I will remove the 2 of them
                            6 avr à 8 h 39
                            #7
                            Dumb trades are easy
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                            Butler is my wish, Montour is what we will end up with...
                            6 avr à 9 h 35
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                            Quoting: Campabee
                            Theodore was more wishful thinking on my part lol.ost of the players were linked to Montreal at some point this season and a couple were just wishful thinking lol.


                            Makes sense. You have to dream. Lol
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                            6 avr à 10 h 20
                            #9
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                            Quoting: jpsnow13
                            Butler is my wish, Montour is what we will end up with...


                            Probably, I wouldn't mind taking Edler with 50% retained either though.
                            6 avr à 10 h 45
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                            Quoting: Campabee
                            Probably, I wouldn't mind taking Edler with 50% retained either though.


                            He has a NTC and said he didn't want to leave Vancouver. Even if he changes his mind, both MTL and Vancouver are at the cap ceiling, so his contract would make any trade nearly impossible.
                            6 avr à 10 h 48
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                            Quoting: Campabee
                            Probably, I wouldn't mind taking Edler with 50% retained either though.


                            Apparently Bergy is looking for a RHD anyway. The source is the agent David Ettedgui.
                            6 avr à 10 h 53
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                            Quoting: jpsnow13
                            He has a NTC and said he didn't want to leave Vancouver. Even if he changes his mind, both MTL and Vancouver are at the cap ceiling, so his contract would make any trade nearly impossible.


                            Unless Gally and Chiarot are done for the regular season
                            6 avr à 11 h 07
                            #13
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                            Quoting: Campabee
                            Unless Gally and Chiarot are done for the regular season


                            Chiarot was not put on LTIR for some unknown reason, so I doubt Gally will be too since it's the same injury. So their salaries count 100%.
                            6 avr à 11 h 26
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                            Quoting: jpsnow13
                            Chiarot was not put on LTIR for some unknown reason, so I doubt Gally will be too since it's the same injury. So their salaries count 100%.


                            I think the reason Chiarot was not put on LTIR is because we did not need to use it. We can and likely will put him on retroactively IF they feel like he is not making enough progress to be able to finish the season. Gally seeing as it is the same injury as Chiarot likely will miss the rest of the season just based on the timeline given for Chiarot of 6-8 weeks and we can use that space to add significantly before the deadline. If MB chooses not to use this to his advantage then I feel like Molson will finally see MB is not doing his job to the best of his abilities.
                            6 avr à 11 h 40
                            #15
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                            Quoting: Campabee
                            I think the reason Chiarot was not put on LTIR is because we did not need to use it. We can and likely will put him on retroactively IF they feel like he is not making enough progress to be able to finish the season. Gally seeing as it is the same injury as Chiarot likely will miss the rest of the season just based on the timeline given for Chiarot of 6-8 weeks and we can use that space to add significantly before the deadline. If MB chooses not to use this to his advantage then I feel like Molson will finally see MB is not doing his job to the best of his abilities.


                            You might be right about the possibility to put them on LTIR retroactively. It used to be forbiden but it changed somewhere before 2019.

                            I'd like to know @capfriendly s opinion on the Habs real buying power at TDL in a scenario where both players would be on LTIR for 6 weeks.

                            I think only John Sedgwick, MTL capologist, knows that answer...
                             
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