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Compher for Jarry

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 24 mars 2021
Publié: 24 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Jarry, Tristan
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Just curious who would say no in this trade scenario?

Pittsburgh would get a forward to cover for injuries to Zucker, Blueger, etc. And by moving Jarry they open up a roster spot to go after a starting goalie.

Avs would get Jarry as backup in exchange for Compher who is underperforming and somewhat surplus to requirements given the Avs strong depth at RW.

Jarry and Compher have virtually identical contracts, $3.5m x 3, with one remaining season having a $4.5m salary.
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24 mars 2021 à 10 h 50
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What the hell? Pens say no easily.
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24 mars 2021 à 10 h 54
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This is like us asking you if you'd give up MacKinnon for DeSmith.
Come on man.

They aren't trading their starting goalie, leaving them with basically nothing in net for a under performing bottom 6 winger.
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24 mars 2021 à 10 h 54
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What the hell? Pens say no easily.


If Pittsburgh want to upgrade in net it might be prudent to move Jarry, particularly as his stats this season are pretty pedestrian:

0.909 sv% (30th among goalies with 500 mins played)
2.86 GAA (33rd)
0.53 GSAA (29th)
0.796 (31st)
24 mars 2021 à 10 h 56
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Quoting: pharrow
This is like us asking you if you'd give up MacKinnon for DeSmith.
Come on man.

They aren't trading their starting goalie, leaving them with basically nothing in net for a under performing bottom 6 winger.


Please try to read the trade description, where I specifically said: "by moving Jarry they open up a roster spot to go after a starting goalie." Obviously Pittsburgh wouldn't move Jarry without bringing in another starter.

Mackinnon to DeSmith is WAAAAY more different in value compared to Jarry and Compher.
24 mars 2021 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: Richard88
If Pittsburgh want to upgrade in net it might be prudent to move Jarry, particularly as his stats this season are pretty pedestrian:

0.909 sv% (30th among goalies with 500 mins played)
2.86 GAA (33rd)
0.53 GSAA (29th)
0.796 (31st)


If they want ilana upgrade in net they'll trade for one. But trading Jarry is not the move. He started off terrible, but hes finding his way quickly. Hes been doing great the past 15 games and trading him would make our goaltending issue worse. Jarry would lose his confidence if he was ever traded or talked about getting traded.
24 mars 2021 à 11 h 7
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Quoting: Richard88
Please try to read the trade description, where I specifically said: "by moving Jarry they open up a roster spot to go after a starting goalie." Obviously Pittsburgh wouldn't move Jarry without bringing in another starter.

Mackinnon to DeSmith is WAAAAY more different in value compared to Jarry and Compher.


what goalie are they gonna bring in man? Didn't you see what happened last offseason.
They got a guy who's decent in net. Not saying he's the greatest in the world, but he can play decent. They aren't going to move him for that.
If goalies were so available why doesn't COL just go sign one? Who wouldn't want to join them right?

and clearly the other trade is meant is jest.
24 mars 2021 à 11 h 27
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what goalie are they gonna bring in man? Didn't you see what happened last offseason.
They got a guy who's decent in net. Not saying he's the greatest in the world, but he can play decent. They aren't going to move him for that.
If goalies were so available why doesn't COL just go sign one? Who wouldn't want to join them right?

and clearly the other trade is meant is jest.


Kuemper or Raanta maybe? Or how about Merzlikins? Merzlikins would give Pittsburgh a legit starter for just $500k more than Jarry, and his contract term coincides with Malkin's contract too. That would give Pittsburgh a good starter to give them two last go's at the cup before a rebuild.

Anyways, it was just a spontaneous idea, so take this AGM for what it is. Just threw it out there to explore possible trade avenues between Avs and Pittsburgh given that Avs had scouts at the NJ/PIT game on Sunday, and Pittsburgh had scouts at last nights Avs game...
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If they want ilana upgrade in net they'll trade for one. But trading Jarry is not the move. He started off terrible, but hes finding his way quickly. Hes been doing great the past 15 games and trading him would make our goaltending issue worse. Jarry would lose his confidence if he was ever traded or talked about getting traded.


Bringing in Merzlikins for 2 playoff runs, and moving Jarry for a forward or Dman would give Pittsburgh a much better shot at the cup in their last 1-2 years of being a playoff team before the inevitable rebuild.
24 mars 2021 à 11 h 32
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Bringing in Merzlikins for 2 playoff runs, and moving Jarry for a forward or Dman would give Pittsburgh a much better shot at the cup in their last 1-2 years of being a playoff team before the inevitable rebuild.


Wouldn't risk it unless you know for a fact that they accept
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Wouldn't risk it unless you know for a fact that they accept


Well yeah, of course you do the Columbus trade first, or in conjunction with Colorado as a 3-way trade.
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Well yeah, of course you do the Columbus trade first, or in conjunction with Colorado as a 3-way trade.


COL adds though
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COL adds though


What do they add, in your opinion?
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What do they add, in your opinion?


Tbh I think Jost is a better option over compher. But in this scenario COL adds a prospect and/or pick
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Tbh I think Jost so a better option over compher. But in this scenario COL adds a prospect and/or pick
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If Pittsburgh want to upgrade in net it might be prudent to move Jarry, particularly as his stats this season are pretty pedestrian:

0.909 sv% (30th among goalies with 500 mins played)
2.86 GAA (33rd)
0.53 GSAA (29th)
0.796 (31st)


He has a .923% in his last 16 starts. He had a horrendous start to the season but has rebounded right back into starter form. Trading him would be a mistake.
24 mars 2021 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: Richard88
Please try to read the trade description, where I specifically said: "by moving Jarry they open up a roster spot to go after a starting goalie." Obviously Pittsburgh wouldn't move Jarry without bringing in another starter.

Mackinnon to DeSmith is WAAAAY more different in value compared to Jarry and Compher.


The trade is bad. Would never happen. Why would they make this deal and then immediately give anyone with a "starting goalie" an edge in a future trade?

Quoting: Richard88
If Pittsburgh want to upgrade in net it might be prudent to move Jarry, particularly as his stats this season are pretty pedestrian:

0.909 sv% (30th among goalies with 500 mins played)
2.86 GAA (33rd)
0.53 GSAA (29th)
0.796 (31st)


He has a .923% in his last 16 starts. He had a horrendous start to the season but has rebounded right back into starter form. Trading him would be a mistake.



happy^ like he said. Jarry is the starting goalie & it is just as insulting to trade Jarry for Compher as it is Mackinnon for DeSmith.
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24 mars 2021 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: Richard88
Kuemper or Raanta maybe? Or how about Merzlikins? Merzlikins would give Pittsburgh a legit starter for just $500k more than Jarry, and his contract term coincides with Malkin's contract too. That would give Pittsburgh a good starter to give them two last go's at the cup before a rebuild.

Anyways, it was just a spontaneous idea, so take this AGM for what it is. Just threw it out there to explore possible trade avenues between Avs and Pittsburgh given that Avs had scouts at the NJ/PIT game on Sunday, and Pittsburgh had scouts at last nights Avs game...


Merzlikins is not a ufa and CBJ would never send him to PIT.
Kuemper is also not a ufa. They would have to trade to get him. So lets trade away pieces to get a goalie after they sent the starting goalie off for a bottom 6 winger. Come on man.
Raata is always hurt.

This is why COL doesn't just do these things.
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What the hell is this? So basically DeSmith for Rantanen then in this case. Easily a no for the Penguins. Christ.
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Quoting: pharrow
Merzlikins is not a ufa and CBJ would never send him to PIT.
Kuemper is also not a ufa. They would have to trade to get him. So lets trade away pieces to get a goalie after they sent the starting goalie off for a bottom 6 winger. Come on man.
Raata is always hurt.

This is why COL doesn't just do these things.


Quoting: Grusofsky96
What the hell is this? So basically DeSmith for Rantanen then in this case. Easily a no for the Penguins. Christ.


I admit that I underestimated Jarry's value, because I overlooked that he's had a resuregence since his ugly start to the season.

Also, this AGM trade was more exploratory to assess value. I appreciate all the feedback, thanks.
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