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19 mars 2021 à 16 h 34
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Landeskog at 2C lol
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19 mars 2021 à 16 h 35
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Landeskog at 2C lol


Funny why?
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 36
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Funny why?


because he is a winger
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 37
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because he is a winger


Hmm..yes...AND a Center...ever wonder why he takes so many Faceoffs????
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 38
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Hmm..yes...AND a Center...ever wonder why he takes so many Faceoffs????


i dont watch avalanche games
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 39
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i dont watch avalanche games


Well...then you probably shouldn't comment on something you know nothing about. wink
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 40
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Well...then you probably shouldn't comment on something you know nothing about. wink


i know he plays on a line at LW with Mac at C and Moose at RW
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 43
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I think there are higher offers on Kuznetsov on this board this week.
19 mars 2021 à 16 h 46
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Quoting: Eli
I think there are higher offers on Kuznetsov on this board this week.


Don't care about what the rest of the board is offering. Dude is trending down. (51 pts per 82 this year). Don't see many teams selling the farm for a 51 pt center that can't win Faceoffs.
19 mars 2021 à 17 h 4
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Don't care about what the rest of the board is offering. Dude is trending down. (51 pts per 82 this year). Don't see many teams selling the farm for a 51 pt center that can't win Faceoffs.


He can get more points if he plays 1C minutes, but Laviolette values Backstrom's defense, and the team is winning, so no complaints here.
19 mars 2021 à 17 h 10
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Well...then you probably shouldn't comment on something you know nothing about. wink


Meanwhile you are talking about Kuznetsov and his value. Take your own advice
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19 mars 2021 à 17 h 49
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Here's a Ducks thread offering Henrique, Steel, and a 3rd round pick for Kuznetsov. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2285143

Steel alone might be worth the above picks. Henrique might be worth another 3rd? Ducks fans had a conversation and didnt' mention Kuznetsov, and then a Sens fan posted "Washington declines." So, you know, he might have some value to some fans of teams besides Minnesota. I think Columbus wants a #1C more than Anaheim or Ottawa, though. I posted a Domi+++ deal for Kuznetsov on their side and nobody batted an eyelash. So, you know, yeah. Kuznetsov is worth more than a 1st. But if Landeskog signs in WSH as a UFA then maybe they have to let him go cheaper to get under the cap by the start of the season? It's fine. I don't hate it. But a lot of times when you take a guy who you're used to seeing in 1st line minutes and stick him on a 2nd line, he gets fewer points, sort of like Kuznetsov this year.
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 0
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Quoting: Eli
Here's a Ducks thread offering Henrique, Steel, and a 3rd round pick for Kuznetsov. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2285143

Steel alone might be worth the above picks. Henrique might be worth another 3rd? Ducks fans had a conversation and didnt' mention Kuznetsov, and then a Sens fan posted "Washington declines." So, you know, he might have some value to some fans of teams besides Minnesota. I think Columbus wants a #1C more than Anaheim or Ottawa, though. I posted a Domi+++ deal for Kuznetsov on their side and nobody batted an eyelash. So, you know, yeah. Kuznetsov is worth more than a 1st. But if Landeskog signs in WSH as a UFA then maybe they have to let him go cheaper to get under the cap by the start of the season? It's fine. I don't hate it. But a lot of times when you take a guy who you're used to seeing in 1st line minutes and stick him on a 2nd line, he gets fewer points, sort of like Kuznetsov this year.


So...just looked up Paul Stastny and what he got traded for in 2018. Stastny was a former 70 pt getter, A Faceoff Stud, NOT a defensive liability and no off ice issues I can remember. He got a 1st, a 4th and Erik Foley(yeah Who??). Albeit, Stastny was a little older than Kuzy at the time, but with the Faceoffs and defense it's at worst a wash...so yeah...keep saying Kuzy is worth a ton...NHL history doesn't dictate that. wink
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Meanwhile you are talking about Kuznetsov and his value. Take your own advice


Meanwhile you're a Pens fan...keep Trollin' Trollin' Trollin' wink
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 7
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So...just looked up Paul Stastny and what he got traded for in 2018. Stastny was a former 70 pt getter, A Faceoff Stud, NOT a defensive liability and no off ice issues I can remember. He got a 1st, a 4th and Erik Foley(yeah Who??). Albeit, Stastny was a little older than Kuzy at the time, but with the Faceoffs and defense it's at worst a wash...so yeah...keep saying Kuzy is worth a ton...NHL history doesn't dictate that. wink


Stastny was a washed up 70 point center. Kuznetsov is a slumping 80 point center, four years younger. There is no comparison. Here's what Columbus fans didn't say yes or no to: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2282594

That's more than just about value, though. Columbus just lost their franchise center in exchange for a young Ovechkin clone. They could use a center who knows how to get the puck to Ovechkin for one-timers. You've tried sending Kuznetsov to Minnesota before. They've said they don't have cap space. Are you trying to kill his value by repeating the same thing you know doesn't work? Because he does have a lot of trade value.
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 7
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Well...then you probably shouldn't comment on something you know nothing about. wink


Okay listen up. I realize you are trying to be a troll, but there is no need to act like that. If someone says something wrong, you should correct them, instead of trying to put people down.

This is a Cap Friendly community. Everyone should be helping each other.
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19 mars 2021 à 18 h 9
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Quoting: Eli
Here's a Ducks thread offering Henrique, Steel, and a 3rd round pick for Kuznetsov. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2285143

Steel alone might be worth the above picks. Henrique might be worth another 3rd? Ducks fans had a conversation and didnt' mention Kuznetsov, and then a Sens fan posted "Washington declines." So, you know, he might have some value to some fans of teams besides Minnesota. I think Columbus wants a #1C more than Anaheim or Ottawa, though. I posted a Domi+++ deal for Kuznetsov on their side and nobody batted an eyelash. So, you know, yeah. Kuznetsov is worth more than a 1st. But if Landeskog signs in WSH as a UFA then maybe they have to let him go cheaper to get under the cap by the start of the season? It's fine. I don't hate it. But a lot of times when you take a guy who you're used to seeing in 1st line minutes and stick him on a 2nd line, he gets fewer points, sort of like Kuznetsov this year.


I never liked Kuzy playing 1C. Again, as I've mentioned before..."elite" centers get better at Kuzy's age...not regress. "Elite" centers normally(with exceptions) can win Faceoffs and normally are not hidden on the defensive end. Just because Kuzy had a couple of good years on stacked teams, doesn't make him anything special. If he had kept getting better and added to his game over the last few years this would be a different conversation, but he hasn't. Add too that the huge drop in offensive production and you're looking at a upper mid pack center at best.

Oh....and I do believe he got pulled from our PP1 as well...not good, not good at all
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 12
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Okay listen up. I realize you are trying to be a troll, but there is no need to act like that. If someone says something wrong, you should correct them, instead of trying to put people down.

This is a Cap Friendly community. Everyone should be helping each other.


Honestly...I'm not the one trying to be a troll...this was for all the whack comments I've been getting from people on here...FOR YEARS....my Patience is up with most of ya'll...I'm just giving what I get. So you too sir can kindly F-OFF!!!
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 16
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Honestly...I'm not the one trying to be a troll...this was for all the whack comments I've been getting from people on here...FOR YEARS....my Patience is up with most of ya'll...I'm just giving what I get. So you too sir can kindly F-OFF!!!


So two wrongs make a right?

Come on man! We should be helping each other, and being nice. Nobody should be trying to put people down.
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 34
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Honestly...I'm not the one trying to be a troll...this was for all the whack comments I've been getting from people on here...FOR YEARS....my Patience is up with most of ya'll...I'm just giving what I get. So you too sir can kindly F-OFF!!!


The main post does increase value for WSH, in terms of Kuznetsov for Landeskog being a lateral move, and being able to trade Kuznetsov for value while signing Landeskog being a way to get something for nothing. I'm with you on that part. That's not even trolling, just smooth asset management.

Can you try to trust fans of other teams that say they do want Kuznetsov and will give something for him? This year a bunch of Caps fans want a late 1st from Minnesota for him, and that's a no. Okay.... last year you wanted to trade Kuznetsov and McMichael for Larkin and Glendening. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1897672 That was a no from Detroit, but it should be a bigger no from Washington. Kuznetsov is still outscoring Larkin on points/game and McMichael might, soon, too. If you want to trade sombeody, they're only going to end up traded to a team that needs them. Teams that need a top six C and have cap space and aren't looking to get all their guys to be 20 years old look like CBJ, Ana, Ott, Buf, and maybe a few Philly fans if the cap balances. Do with that what you want.

As for Kuznetsov playing on PP2, it's going to help the team's overall PP% if they have two real units, and Kuznetsov barely got the puck on unit 1, because Backstrom, Oshie, Carlson, and Ovechkin barely need any help. They could stick Panik at PP1L and build a better 2nd unit.
19 mars 2021 à 18 h 47
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Panik would probably fall onto the Jets' 4th line. That isn't great value for his $2.75 million AAV for the next two years.
19 mars 2021 à 19 h 17
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Meanwhile you're a Pens fan...keep Trollin' Trollin' Trollin' wink


And that has what to do with your evaluation for kuznetsov? Get a new sport bud, hockey isn’t for you
19 mars 2021 à 19 h 30
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Ignored...POS...go suck Crosby's D***!!!!


Again. Crosby or the pens have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. So why bring them up? And why do you get extremely upset when you’re asked a simple question?
 
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