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Créé par: Canadian_Rednek
Équipe: 2016-17 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 27 déc. 2016
Publié: 27 déc. 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Islanders trade is a Trade deadline deal.

The Leafs protect 2 forwards: Kadri and Brown; 6 defencemen: Reilly, Vatanen, Gardiner, Hamonic, Pulock, and Mueller; 1 goalie: Anderson; lose either Komarov or Fehr.
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. Pulock, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Hamonic's stock has dropped a bit this year and as of now Pulock is going to be exposed in the expansion draft and is far too good to lose for nothing.
NYI
  1. Carrick, Connor
  2. van Riemsdyk, James
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Jeremy Bracco.
This trade benefits both teams as Toronto has a surplus of forwards and needs a good RD and NYI needs ano elite winger to play with Tavares.
2.
TOR
  1. Vatanen, Sami
Détails additionnels:
Pretty expansion draft deal.
Anaheim has too many D to protect and Vatanen is probably the most expendable of the group.
ANA
  1. Leivo, Josh
  2. Lööv, Viktor
  3. Soshnikov, Nikita
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
Soshnikov is going to be the 5th best RW on the leafs roster next year with Kapanen coming up and could fill the 3rd line spot on the Ducks. And Leivo should have a shot at the roster as well.
3.
TOR
  1. Fehr, Eric
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2017 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Leipsic, Brendan
  2. Polák, Roman (1 125 000 $ retained)
4.
TOR
  1. Mueller, Mirco
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
Pre expansion draft deal.
SJS
  1. Bozak, Tyler (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Marincin, Martin
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2017
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de SJS
Logo de OTT
Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2018
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de SJS
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de ARI
Logo de TOR
2019
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Logo de SJS
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2273 000 000 $56 320 810 $512 000 $6 292 500 $16 679 190 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
686 667 $686 667 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 3
693 333 $693 333 $ (Bonis de performance165 000 $$165K)
AG
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 3
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $
C
UFA - 2
575 000 $575 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
2 437 500 $2 437 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
655 000 $655 000 $ (Bonis de performance120 000 $$120K)
G
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
600 000 $600 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
675 000 $675 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1

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27 déc. 2016 à 15 h 48
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What is with you man: JVR for a declining Defenseman, and a "prospect" who can not even make the big club. Plus Toronto doesn't have defensive holes with fringe NHLers. They already have Marincin, Corrado, Hunwick, Polak, Loov, Valiev. Who can all play third pairing. With Nielsen being ready to be called up whenever, Carrick, Gardiner, Zaitsev they have a full second pairing. Dermott will probably be a solid top 4 once developed.(year or two away). And Rielly will be a solid top 2 defenseman. For the Soshnikov trade it would be decent to get Vatanen. Except no NHL team three bottom 6 players for a top 4 defenseman. Bozak deal is decent; probably not enough return. Polak deal is the same, Polak himself is a second round pick to a contender, with no salary retained. Leipsic is leading the Marlies in points or in second. Why would you trade him for Fehr. Just does not make much sense.

Also not really surprised. Since a majority of your posts are the Leafs getting robbed in deals.
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27 déc. 2016 à 15 h 54
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It is a bad idea to trade Marincin, without bringing back a suitable candidate to expose at expansion. Leafs need to expose 1 defenseman (under contract) who has met specific games played criteria over the past two seasons. Unfortunately, the only 4 that qualify are Gardiner, Rielly, Vatanen, and Harmonic. I think Vegas chooses one of those over Komarov or Fehr.
27 déc. 2016 à 16 h 32
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Good point Brian I missed that.

Sage that's funny because your the only one that thinks the Leafs are getting robbed in the JVR deal. Everyone else in my other posthan with a similar deal says the it's close but the Leafs need to add more. And I was trying to take my bias out of the equation, which you clearly aren't doing. You look at the Leafs organization with Blue and White Goggles and see nothing wrong with anyone within the organization. Good luck with that...
27 déc. 2016 à 16 h 38
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Can only protect 4 defenceman max
27 déc. 2016 à 17 h 5
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Can only protect 4 defenceman max

Where are you getting this is can't find anything that says this and trust me I've looked
27 déc. 2016 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: Will
Can only protect 4 defenceman max

Where are you getting this is can't find anything that says this and trust me I've looked


His @$$. If you choose the "8 skater route" you can choose any 8 you like.
27 déc. 2016 à 18 h 53
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The problem here is that you're looking at the Leafs like they all need to be swapped. Stop making all these trades that jump ship from their slow approach and try and rush them into the playoffs. It's not going to work. JVR is VERY valuable because he is a very good scorer, there are only a handful of left wingers with more goals than him since 2012 and he's only got a 4.25 million dollar cap hit for the next year and a half. It doesn't MATTER about the fact his contract is going to expire, any playoff team will go crazy for that type of deal, but the Islanders are NOT that team. They've already showed signs of wanting to make the team great and I think they're seeing from the Ladd signing that they might need to go out with the old and in with the new. Yes, they could find use for JVR, but they're gonna move Boychuk's cap before moving the perfectly reasonable caphit for Hamonic. The Leafs are gonna hold a VERY high value for JVR like they did for Kessel and aren't going to let him go for nothing. Carrick is a good prospect for the Leafs and JVR is high calibre, so you're just saying Hamonic for JVR and Pulock for Carrick and that's just not good value for either. Then you're grabbing Vatanen who has a nearly 5 million dollar cap, and what will you sign Zaitsev to at the end of the year? Your earlier thing said 4.25 I believe? So that's 4.05 for Gardiner, 5 for Rielly, 4.875 for Vatanen, 3.9 for Hamonic and then probably 4.25 for Zaitsev? That's what, 17 million on 5 dmen? And then what happens to Pulock, who played for the Islanders in the playoffs last year? Isn't he gonna make a roster spot? You can't keep him on the right cause it's too clogged and Babs loves the L-R pairings so he's gonna end up in the minors and he's too good for that now IMO.
If you're gonna keep going crazy posting trades all day long, stop fluctuating value for these players. JVR is gonna be held for a mint, Bozak as well, and that's why I think aside from a possible JVR trade, you're not going to see much action. Shanahan and Lamoriello are looking to build the team from the inside with their own picks and prospects. Yes, they'll make a move for a RHD if they really do anything, but I don't see a high possibility of that RHD being a regular dman or a prospect. Don't call someone out for looking at the Leafs through Blue and White goggles and then continue to make trades that destroy the value of good players. I like that you listen to criticism, but that's also a fault since everyone has different beliefs. A Caps fan will say they're paying too much for whoever you're trading because they value their guys highly and a Leafs fan will always tell you that you're not asking for anywhere near enough because they value their guys as well. Don't judge value based on opinion, base it off numbers. Base it off corsi and points and +/- and their hits/60 and their turnovers and takeaways and the amount of icetime they get and how they produce during those precious minutes and their competition when they're on the ice for line matching, look at their faceoff percentage and the amount of shots they block and the amount of shots they've taken that are stopped and their PP/60. Look at the players when they play and judge how they go after the puck and attack it and how they form chemistry! Don't listen to everyone from all the different teams all the time because they'll value the guys they like just like you'll value your own guys sometimes. I don't post because I can't judge players but I credit you for doing it, but I want you to sometimes just listen to what the analysts are saying and what the numbers say, then you get a proper value of how players will go.
I admire how much you put dedication into it, but don't listen to everyone.
As for these trades, the Leafs will wait, that's what they're doing. You're looking for the RHD which I think is great, but you're making firesale trades when the firesale is over for now
27 déc. 2016 à 19 h 0
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Don't know why you undersell Vatanen so much. He and Lindholm are locks to be the two protected Dman for the Ducks. It's the decision between the better but 1 year UFA and the cheaper and controllable Manson.
Soshiknov and especially hasn't seen the ice Leivo don't carry much weight as good NHL regulars (though I like Soshiknov).
 
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