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Deadline Redux and Draft Trade

Créé par: BeterChiarelli
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2021
Publié: 7 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NSH
  1. Benson, Tyler
  2. Jones, Caleb
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Barrie, Tyson (1 875 000 $ retained)
  2. Cairns, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
3.
EDM
  1. Staal, Eric (1 625 000 $ retained)
BUF
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Chiasson, Alex (1 075 000 $ retained)
5.
EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DET)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 174 032 $341 534 $1 230 000 $2 325 968 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
0 $0 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ (4 675 000 $$5M4 675 000 $$5M)
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1

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7 mars 2021 à 18 h 26
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Nashville probably accepts this
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7 mars 2021 à 18 h 27
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Blues have no interest in Chiasson
7 mars 2021 à 18 h 28
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Blues have no interest in Chiasson


I think that price and the ability to upgrade on MacEachern says otherwise.
7 mars 2021 à 18 h 34
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Nashville would be happy I think. Idk about tampa adding barrie. Buffalo probably just moves staal somewhere else instead of taking turris foe another year. I mean the 1st foe 2 2nds I guess depends on the draft situation.
7 mars 2021 à 18 h 35
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I think that price and the ability to upgrade on MacEachern says otherwise.


Maybe you really are Chiarelli because you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Chiasson isn't really an that much of an upgrade over Mac. Even so, Blues don't want to add another 1 mil to the cap for another bottom 6 forward. They could get someone better if they really want to.
7 mars 2021 à 18 h 37
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Quoting: Jwilliams2k12
Nashville probably accepts this


I agree, but I'd be looking to flip Jones right after the deal was made though. WPG maybe? Keeping him in Canada and shortening his quarantine window could work for them.
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7 mars 2021 à 18 h 44
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Even with the retention this doesn't fit Tampa's cap so giving a 1 to hinder Footes development for Barrie isn't a good idea
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Quoting: Chopper02
Maybe you really are Chiarelli because you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Chiasson isn't really an that much of an upgrade over Mac. Even so, Blues don't want to add another 1 mil to the cap for another bottom 6 forward. They could get someone better if they really want to.


"MaYbE yOu ReAlLy ArE cHiArElLi" Christ, good one. Haven't heard that one before. Mac isn't even an NHL player. Chiasson at least has some defensive competency and utility on the power play.

The Blues don't have any money to work with unless they start shortening their bench during games or reassign Mac, Joshua, and Mikkola. There isn't going to be a substantial upgrade for this club wbeyond names coming off of IR. It's a depth move for a playoff run (it's a deferred 6th for Christ's sake), I'll just throw Vegas' name in there instead I guess.
7 mars 2021 à 18 h 46
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
Even with the retention this doesn't fit Tampa's cap so giving a 1 to **** Footes development for Barrie isn't a good idea


Reassigning Cal to Syracuse to play big minutes in all situations while he's still waiver exempt is both beneficial to development and frees up the money required to fit Barrie in. Continuing to play him for 10-12 minutes a night isn't helping his development.
7 mars 2021 à 19 h 4
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I don't see the appeal of Eric Staal. His FO% is below 50. He has 8 points and is a -15 in 23 games this year. Staal get's a few more points than Turris but honestly, the slight upgrade isn't worth a 2nd. We already have so few draft picks. Ekholm at the right price might be ok but this season isn't worth selling our future for. We did that last year. A guy like Martinez in free agency next summer could play a similar role

I also see Holland trading down, hopefully 2 picks in the 35-65 range depending on what place we finish

If someone give us a pick for Chiasson 50% retained I'm in

Barrie trade is unlikely imo because we just signed him, he's playing well, and the teams playing well. Gives Edmonton a bad look for future free agents if we set a precedent of trading guys after 2 months, especially when they're playing so well (by playing well I mean putting up points. He's brutal defensively but by his standards this is a great season)
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Draft trade makes no sense in a vacuum. I mean sure Yzerman might do that if somebody they really like falls but that's pretty impossible to predict and otherwise isn't worth giving up 2 2nd's to move up what like 5-10 spots at the end of the 1st
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Quoting: Jwilliams2k12
Nashville probably accepts this


That 1 rounder could be a lottery pick if things head south for the Oilers next year.

Nashville absolutely has to accept this.
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7 mars 2021 à 19 h 28
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Reassigning Cal to Syracuse to play big minutes in all situations while he's still waiver exempt is both beneficial to development and frees up the money required to fit Barrie in. Continuing to play him for 10-12 minutes a night isn't helping his development.


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Reassigning Cal to Syracuse to play big minutes in all situations while he's still waiver exempt is both beneficial to development and frees up the money required to fit Barrie in. Continuing to play him for 10-12 minutes a night isn't helping his development.


I disagree i think he's ready and giving him the Sergachev treatment. Barrie is also atrocious defensively .TB has Sergachev and Hedmann QBing the pp so that un needed
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I don't see the appeal of Eric Staal. His FO% is below 50. He has 8 points and is a -15 in 23 games this year. Staal get's a few more points than Turris but honestly, the slight upgrade isn't worth a 2nd. We already have so few draft picks. Ekholm at the right price might be ok but this season isn't worth selling our future for. We did that last year. A guy like Martinez in free agency next summer could play a similar role

I also see Holland trading down, hopefully 2 picks in the 35-65 range depending on what place we finish

If someone give us a pick for Chiasson 50% retained I'm in

Barrie trade is unlikely imo because we just signed him, he's playing well, and the teams playing well. Gives Edmonton a bad look for future free agents if we set a precedent of trading guys after 2 months, especially when they're playing so well (by playing well I mean putting up points. He's brutal defensively but by his standards this is a great season)


Staal is stuck on the worst team in the league. The fact that he's still close to 0.33pts/game is a miracle. Get him in a better environment and everything else should go back to something that more resembles his Minnesota numbers. There's the benefit of getting rid of Turris too.

Precedent schmesedent. Everything Barrie does Bouchard can do, but comes with more defensive acumen. The Oilers still need a few draft assets and he's an extraneous piece. His 1 year deal was clearly a show-me deal. Getting sent to Tampa is hardly a punishment.

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Draft trade makes no sense in a vacuum. I mean sure Yzerman might do that if somebody they really like falls but that's pretty impossible to predict and otherwise isn't worth giving up 2 2nd's to move up what like 5-10 spots at the end of the 1st


That assumes Edmonton finishes around 24th, which I doubt they will. 32 picks per round this year, important to remember. It's anywhere between 12-15 spots depending on where both the Red Wings and Oilers finish. It absolutely makes sense.

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That 1 rounder could be a lottery pick if things head south for the Oilers next year.

Nashville absolutely has to accept this.


With Edmonton returning to the Pacific next year, that is incredibly unlikely. Not hard to lottery protect it either.
7 mars 2021 à 20 h 16
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So Barrie scores over 0.5 point/g pace last season and everyone says he was bad and now is 7th in D scoring and is getting UNLOADED at the deadline...

Is he *that* bad defensively?

Or are people just being ridiculous 🧐

Clown league bro

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7 mars 2021 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
"MaYbE yOu ReAlLy ArE cHiArElLi" Christ, good one. Haven't heard that one before. Mac isn't even an NHL player. Chiasson at least has some defensive competency and utility on the power play.

The Blues don't have any money to work with unless they start shortening their bench during games or reassign Mac, Joshua, and Mikkola. There isn't going to be a substantial upgrade for this club wbeyond names coming off of IR. It's a depth move for a playoff run (it's a deferred 6th for Christ's sake), I'll just throw Vegas' name in there instead I guess.


And guess what, they will be demoting Joshua, and others. Blues don't need Chiasson. When the guys come back Chiasson is out of the lineup ahead of those other guys. Plus, Mac is also good defensively. This is why they have him on the PK.
7 mars 2021 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: gmgb
I agree, but I'd be looking to flip Jones right after the deal was made though. WPG maybe? Keeping him in Canada and shortening his quarantine window could work for them.


Yeah very true I never thought of that
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Quoting: Radu47
So Barrie scores over 0.5 point/g pace last season and everyone says he was bad and now is 7th in D scoring and is getting UNLOADED at the deadline...

Is he *that* bad defensively?

Or are people just being ridiculous 🧐

Clown league bro

Unreal


He's poor defensively, Edmonton has a lack of draft capital, and a younger player that needs to be taking on more than just sheltered minutes. It's a unique intersection and I don't believe he'll be of much use to the Oilers in a seven-game series. The power play opportunities aren't going to be there.
 
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