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Deep Projection

Créé par: BeterChiarelli
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 4 mars 2021
Publié: 4 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Part 3/3

Most of this needs a grain of salt. The salary cap should start rising again this season but I'll refrain from considering it for the scope of this projection.

In: Broberg, Konovalov, Lavoie, McLeod, Rasanen, Samorukov
Out: Archibald, Ekholm Koskinen, Lagesson, Russell, Staal

I'm hesitant to say this roster is a bona-fide improvement over the one featured in Part 2, but having a healthier Klefbom might be enough for me to consider it on par. Hard to predict development and how players mature. If Klefbom indeed retires, I'd wonder if Ekholm could be extended at or near $4.5M per on a 2-3 year deal. I'm not optimistic he could be however.

I'm anticipating bridge deals to Bouchard, Broberg, Konovalov, and Lavoie. I think Ennis, Haas, Khaira, Klefbom, Larsson, and Tatar walk and Kahun is moved at either the deadline or the draft. Holloway should be looking to inherit the #1LW spot but Huberdeau possibly being available in the offseason is exceptionally alluring, especially with so many cheaper deals on the roster, dead cap evaporating, and a rising salary cap.

A Lagesson trade happens after the 2022-23 season and the return I'd like to see is a right-handed center with top-nine potential coming back. I know the Kings are up to their sleeves in centermen as of publishing this, and I suspect JAD, Kupari, and Thomas to shake free in exchange for other assets. Most likely wingers, but a young, stable top-four defender (by this point in time) could be a suitable ask as well or part of a three-team exchange. Not expecting this to be the immediate trade, but something of this flavour.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2825 000 $
3925 000 $
2825 000 $
2925 000 $
3825 000 $
1925 000 $
1925 000 $
3825 000 $
3825 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
54 000 000 $
11 650 000 $
11 000 000 $
2850 000 $
23 500 000 $
2900 000 $
1850 000 $
23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
77 500 000 $
15 750 000 $
11 250 000 $
87 500 000 $
12 750 000 $
35 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
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    1. Lagesson, William [Droits de RFA]
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    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
    Détails additionnels:
    Picks moved in previous years
    MIN
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $81 251 333 $896 000 $1 700 000 $248 667 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 7
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    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
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    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    870 000 $870 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
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    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    925 000 $925 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    925 000 $925 000 $
    C
    RFA
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1

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    4 mars 2021 à 15 h 6
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    Just because LA is flush with center prospects doesn't mean they're going to unload a guy with potential for a guy that hasn't been able to stick in the NHL by by 25. I suspect Edmonton will lose Lagesson to waivers in October. The Kings might trade you Michael Amadio for him.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Just because LA is flush with center prospects doesn't mean they're going to unload a guy with potential for a guy that hasn't been able to stick in the NHL by by 25. I suspect Edmonton will lose Lagesson to waivers in October. The Kings might trade you Michael Amadio for him.


    A defencemen not being NHL ready until last year and not actually getting his shot until this year invalidates him from being a trade piece? Some player assessment tool you've got there. I even say it doesn't need to be that exact trade, just something in-line with it. A right-handed center prospect not expected to be more than a 3rd-line piece will be fine.
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    A defencemen not being NHL ready until last year and not actually getting his shot until this year invalidates him from being a trade piece? Some player assessment tool you've got there. I even say it doesn't need to be that exact trade, just something in-line with it. A right-handed center prospect not expected to be more than a 3rd-line piece will be fine.


    It doesn't invalidate him from being a trade piece, but it does invalidate him from being traded for more than his value. As you say, Thomas is a top-nine potential guy, with 2 years or waiver exemption remaining after this season. Lagesson is not an upgrade to either Anderson or Bjornfot, so he's a healthy scratch on the Kings. Not sure when an overaged 6/7 defensive prospect became value equivalent to a 3rd line center with scoring upside.

    They have transitioned Thomas to RW and he has been playing on the top line in Ontario this season, ahead of guys like ****emo and Kaliyev on the depth chart. The Kings are high on him.

    Like I said, if Edmonton is ok taking back a similarly-aged guy like Amadio or Luff instead, then I'm sure the Kings would look at it.
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    It doesn't invalidate him from being a trade piece, but it does invalidate him from being traded for more than his value. As you say, Thomas is a top-nine potential guy, with 2 years or waiver exemption remaining after this season. Lagesson is not an upgrade to either Anderson or Bjornfot, so he's a healthy scratch on the Kings. Not sure when an overaged 6/7 defensive prospect became value equivalent to a 3rd line center with scoring upside.

    They have transitioned Thomas to RW and he has been playing on the top line in Ontario this season, ahead of guys like ****emo and Kaliyev on the depth chart. The Kings are high on him.

    Like I said, if Edmonton is ok taking back a similarly-aged guy like Amadio or Luff instead, then I'm sure the Kings would look at it.


    I think Lagesson's comfortably established himself as a solid third-pairing option at this point.

    Prospect would be much more preferred. If I'm taking back what amounts to an AHL forward, I'd want a pick involved. Ideally a late 3rd.
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    I think Lagesson's comfortably established himself as a solid third-pairing option at this point.

    Prospect would be much more preferred. If I'm taking back what amounts to an AHL forward, I'd want a pick involved. Ideally a late 3rd.


    You wouldn't get it from LA. They have no need for another 3rd paring defenseman. They've already had to bury NHL-ready Kale Clague in the AHL because he's still waiver exempt and they don't have an extra roster spot available. Cole Hults is looking to make the jump soon as well. Not to mention that Maatta and MacDermid are under contract for another season.
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    You wouldn't get it from LA. They have no need for another 3rd paring defenseman. They've already had to bury NHL-ready Kale Clague in the AHL because he's still waiver exempt and they don't have an extra roster spot available. Cole Hults is looking to make the jump soon as well. Not to mention that Maatta and MacDermid are under contract for another season.


    This happens in 2022-23. Not sure if you noticed.

    Point remains the same if it's not LA. A RHC prospect that I can have playing top-six in the AHL or an AHL center and a late 3rd.
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    There's so much potential with our current lineup, prospect pool, and cap situation. Neal's contract is really the only problem with our overall situation. No reason to not be contending for the cup in a season or 2 though
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    This happens in 2022-23. Not sure if you noticed.

    Point remains the same if it's not LA. A RHC prospect that I can have playing top-six in the AHL or an AHL center and a late 3rd.


    Will Lagesson still even be in the Oilers organization in 2022-23? The Kings are pretty much done with Lias Andersson, they'd probably swap him with Lagesson instead.
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    Just because LA is flush with center prospects doesn't mean they're going to unload a guy with potential for a guy that hasn't been able to stick in the NHL by by 25. I suspect Edmonton will lose Lagesson to waivers in October. The Kings might trade you Michael Amadio for him.


    lagesson has been one of their best defence.
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    Overpay on Nurse and Tatar. I don't think tatar gets more than 5 Million and Nurse hopefully only gets 7.
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    lagesson has been one of their best defence.


    Great. He'd still be a healthy scratch in LA.
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    Great. He'd still be a healthy scratch in LA.


    Thats why they are playing Bjornfoot huh?
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    Thats why they are playing Bjornfoot huh?


    I don't understand your point. Bjornfot has been one of the best defensemen on the Kings so far this year. They swapped him with Kale Clague to give him a look, and he has run away with the job. He just passed the 6 game threshold so he will burn a year off his ELC instead of letting it slide another year. No one expected him to get more than 6 games.

    I'm saying it now. Bjornfot will be the next player on the Kings to wear the "C" once Kopitar retires.
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    I don't understand your point. Bjornfot has been one of the best defensemen on the Kings so far this year. They swapped him with Kale Clague to give him a look, and he has run away with the job. He just passed the 6 game threshold so he will burn a year off his ELC instead of letting it slide another year. No one expected him to get more than 6 games.

    I'm saying it now. Bjornfot will be the next player on the Kings to wear the "C" once Kopitar retires.


    Kinda sounds like how Lagesson got to playing.
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    Kinda sounds like how Lagesson got to playing.


    Except Bjornfot is 19 and rights protected for another 7 years, while Lagesson is 25 and could be a UFA in only 2. 25 year olds don't qualify for ELC slides.

    If he's so great, keep him.
     
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