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Mantha

Créé par: SweetRevenge19
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2021
Publié: 20 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Holland going all in

This Holloway for Bertuzzi thread gave me the idea.
www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/419437
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DET
  1. Holloway, Dylan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Neal, James
  3. Turris, Kyle
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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NSH
  1. Samorukov, Dmitri
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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21 févr. 2021 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: Grievous
I would not trade Holloway from an Oilers perspective.

I would go: Mantha + Glendening
For: Neal + Marody + Benson + Lavoie + 2022 1st

Lavoie likely needs time in the AHL, but Marody and Benson would probably crack the Red Wing line-up today.

Neals contract is easily bought out and Detroit with have a massive amount of cap room next year and will have a huge haul at this year's draft. This gives Stevie Y a chance to clear the decks and really put his stamp on the franchise moving forward.

I am not interested in moving Samorukov at this point for a rental.


But Mantha is top of the lineup goal scoring power forward in his prime. Can’t see the Wings trading Mantha without a top prospect coming back. I understand the unwillingness to give up Holloway, but replacing him with 3 lesser prospects doesn’t make up the value.
21 févr. 2021 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
But Mantha is top of the lineup goal scoring power forward in his prime. Can’t see the Wings trading Mantha without a top prospect coming back. I understand the unwillingness to give up Holloway, but replacing him with 3 lesser prospects doesn’t make up the value.


He has never scored 30 and is frequently injured, so he comes with certain risks. At 26 he is at his peak, but he is not an elite NHL goal scorer. Bottom line, I am not trading Holloway for him, I'd rather try for Filip Forsberg who is apparently available, is the same age, has scored almost twice as much as Mantha, and would likely also be easier to acquire.
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22 févr. 2021 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: Grievous
He has never scored 30 and is frequently injured, so he comes with certain risks. At 26 he is at his peak, but he is not an elite NHL goal scorer. Bottom line, I am not trading Holloway for him, I'd rather try for Filip Forsberg who is apparently available, is the same age, has scored almost twice as much as Mantha, and would likely also be easier to acquire.


I agree.

@SweetRevenge19

Lavoie is the prospect equivalent to Mantha, not Holloway. Big, good skater, great shooter, not very impactful in other parts of the game. Holloway is a much more complete player and since he'll probably be in the NHL next September, this trade doesn't make much sense for the future.

Buying out Neal costs the Oilers just $1.9m in cap space, I don't think it's worth giving up a 1st for just $1.9M - especially when they aren't cap-strapped this summer. I've made lots of AGM's with the Oilers keeping Neal AND adding marquee UFA's, so there's no pressure at all to make this kind of deal.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2205990
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2152757
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5 mars 2021 à 3 h 20
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PD2001 Copenhagen Oilerfan_Bill


Giving away Holloway is stupid but I like bringing in Mantha and Ekholm would just leave a Gap at 3C and Goal remaining.
 
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