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Dylan Guenther

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Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2021
Publié: 17 févr. 2021
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 1
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Thats a funny way to spell sebastian Cossa...

Geunther will be gone top 10. edmonton will probably pick 15-20.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 1
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The other ones Drai
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Play him with McD instead
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 8
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If Edmonton picks high enough to pick Guenther, then McDavid is asking for a trade out this off-season.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 9
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Thats a funny way to spell sebastian Cossa...

Geunther will be gone top 10. edmonton will probably pick 15-20.


Edmonton isn't taking a goalie in the 1st round. It does nothing to help them win now. Cossa is 3-5 years away from even being a backup.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 14
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I'd be pretty surprised to see RNH at that price. I'd assume someone will give him at least $7.5 as a UFA.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 30
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I heff to be mad...
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He's tha goat
17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 34
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I'd be pretty surprised to see RNH at that price. I'd assume someone will give him at least $7.5 as a UFA.


Edmonton would have to go 8 years it wouldn't work on a 6 year term.
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Edmonton isn't taking a goalie in the 1st round. It does nothing to help them win now. Cossa is 3-5 years away from even being a backup.


This draft is heavy on defense do you want another defenseman? At some point they have to draft a goalie they've got enough wingers for about 3 years and enough defensemen in the system. They could use another 3rd line center but in the short term with Ryan Mcleod and Haas and Holloway they could afford to pick a goalie this draft. I'm sick of this instability in goaltending it's been 10 years since they had a tender they have to make some efforts to improve it at least in my lifetime. They need to sign a top goalie and draft one too so they have continuity and can also keep their cap down.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 37
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Edmonton would have to go 8 years it wouldn't work on a 6 year term.

This draft is heavy on defense do you want another defenseman? At some point they have to draft a goalie they've got enough wingers for about 3 years and enough defensemen in the system. They could use another 3rd line center but in the short term with Ryan Mcleod and Haas and Holloway they could afford to pick a goalie this draft. I'm sick of this instability in goaltending it's been 10 years since they had a tender they have to make some efforts to improve it at least in my lifetime. They need to sign a top goalie and draft one too so they have continuity and can also keep their cap down.


Yeah, 8 might be fine.

re: goaltending-drafting goalies in the 1st round is a friggin' crapshoot. Create some cap space and sign a decent UFA, or trade for someone established.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 47
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Edmonton would have to go 8 years it wouldn't work on a 6 year term.

This draft is heavy on defense do you want another defenseman? At some point they have to draft a goalie they've got enough wingers for about 3 years and enough defensemen in the system. They could use another 3rd line center but in the short term with Ryan Mcleod and Haas and Holloway they could afford to pick a goalie this draft. I'm sick of this instability in goaltending it's been 10 years since they had a tender they have to make some efforts to improve it at least in my lifetime. They need to sign a top goalie and draft one too so they have continuity and can also keep their cap down.


I'd be willing to put good money on Edmonton not drafting a goalie in the 1st round. They have other needs that need to be addressed before a goalie that will maybe help them in 3-5 years. Cossa is awhile away, you putting all your eggs in that basket is just dumb. Wingers and centres in the system are their top needs. They don't have much outside of 3 guys (Lavoie, Benson, and Holloway). Drafting a player at wing or centre will help them win a lot sooner than a goalie. Goalies take much longer to develop because of reflexes being so important to the position. You want Cossa in the 1st round, I wouldn't be shocked to see McDavid out either this off-season or next. He doesn't care for a prospect that's gonna maybe help in 3-5 years. He wants to win now. You have to keep your core happy and your franchise player happy. Drafting Cossa in the 1st round doesn't do that.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 55
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Yeah, 8 might be fine.

re: goaltending-drafting goalies in the 1st round is a friggin' crapshoot. Create some cap space and sign a decent UFA, or trade for someone established.


They have enough space to sign a 6 million dollar goalie this offseason they need somebody to be able to step in when they are on their 5-6th year of their contract though.
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17 févr. 2021 à 12 h 59
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They have enough space to sign a 6 million dollar goalie this offseason they need somebody to be able to step in when they are on their 5-6th year of their contract though.


Meh, worry about 5-6 years down the road in a couple of years. The team has too much firepower right now to be concerned about a position that you can fill quite easily.
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 6
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I'd be willing to put good money on Edmonton not drafting a goalie in the 1st round. They have other needs that need to be addressed before a goalie that will maybe help them in 3-5 years. Cossa is awhile away, you putting all your eggs in that basket is just dumb. Wingers and centres in the system are their top needs. They don't have much outside of 3 guys (Lavoie, Benson, and Holloway). Drafting a player at wing or centre will help them win a lot sooner than a goalie. Goalies take much longer to develop because of reflexes being so important to the position. You want Cossa in the 1st round, I wouldn't be shocked to see McDavid out either this off-season or next. He doesn't care for a prospect that's gonna maybe help in 3-5 years. He wants to win now. You have to keep your core happy and your franchise player happy. Drafting Cossa in the 1st round doesn't do that.


You have to have some vision about what the goaltender market will do after summer of 2021-22. What happens when Rinne, Halak, Smith, rask, Elliot, and Fluery are all gone because they have retired? The market will go back to where it was when edmonton signed Koskinen. They Knew he wasn't great but he was the best option at the time because there was literally nobody else and who knows how long it will last this time.
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Thats a funny way to spell sebastian Cossa...

Geunther will be gone top 10. edmonton will probably pick 15-20.


I've seen Cossa around the 30-50 range typically so I don't think it would be wise for Edmonton to throw a (say) 15-20 pick at him. If they were to trade down from (say) 18 to 30+40, it makes sense to grab him with one of those picks.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 10
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I'd be willing to put good money on Edmonton not drafting a goalie in the 1st round. They have other needs that need to be addressed before a goalie that will maybe help them in 3-5 years. Cossa is awhile away, you putting all your eggs in that basket is just dumb. Wingers and centres in the system are their top needs. They don't have much outside of 3 guys (Lavoie, Benson, and Holloway). Drafting a player at wing or centre will help them win a lot sooner than a goalie. Goalies take much longer to develop because of reflexes being so important to the position. You want Cossa in the 1st round, I wouldn't be shocked to see McDavid out either this off-season or next. He doesn't care for a prospect that's gonna maybe help in 3-5 years. He wants to win now. You have to keep your core happy and your franchise player happy. Drafting Cossa in the 1st round doesn't do that.


Savoie, Tullio, and Mcleod are better prospects than Benson.
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 21
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I'd be willing to put good money on Edmonton not drafting a goalie in the 1st round. They have other needs that need to be addressed before a goalie that will maybe help them in 3-5 years. Cossa is awhile away, you putting all your eggs in that basket is just dumb. Wingers and centres in the system are their top needs. They don't have much outside of 3 guys (Lavoie, Benson, and Holloway). Drafting a player at wing or centre will help them win a lot sooner than a goalie. Goalies take much longer to develop because of reflexes being so important to the position. You want Cossa in the 1st round, I wouldn't be shocked to see McDavid out either this off-season or next. He doesn't care for a prospect that's gonna maybe help in 3-5 years. He wants to win now. You have to keep your core happy and your franchise player happy. Drafting Cossa in the 1st round doesn't do that.

Agree except I don't rate Benson very highly. I'd put Savoie in that sentence instead, with consideration given to Maksimov, McLeod and Tullio.
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I've seen Cossa around the 30-50 range typically so I don't think it would be wise for Edmonton to throw a (say) 15-20 pick at him. If they were to trade down from (say) 18 to 30+40, it makes sense to grab him with one of those picks.


If that's the reality then somebody with Icewater for blood can make that happen. If they are just going to pick depth forwards then they should trade back for a 2nd and 3rd anyway.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 25
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If that's the reality then somebody with Icewater for blood can make that happen. If they are just going to pick depth forwards then they should trade back for a 2nd and 3rd anyway.


Ice water for blood? You mean like trading down from 76 when Carter Savoie was still on the board, then calmly waiting until pick #100 and grabbing the sniper anyhow? And collecting Ty Tullio at #126... that's ice water, my friend.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 25
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You have to have some vision about what the goaltender market will do after summer of 2021-22. What happens when Rinne, Halak, Smith, rask, Elliot, and Fluery are all gone because they have retired? The market will go back to where it was when edmonton signed Koskinen. They Knew he wasn't great but he was the best option at the time because there was literally nobody else and who knows how long it will last this time.


& drafting a goalie in the first round when you have other needs doesn't change that.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 30
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Ice water for blood? You mean like trading down from 76 when Carter Savoie was still on the board, then calmly waiting until pick #100 and grabbing the sniper anyhow? And collecting Ty Tullio at #126... that's ice water, my friend.


Well to be fair edmonton badly wanted foudy or prokop at 76 and they went 2 picks before so their figured they might as well roll the dice bcause it just didn't matter anymore after that.
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 33
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Well to be fair edmonton badly wanted foudy or prokop at 76 and they went 2 picks before so their figured they might as well roll the dice bcause it just didn't matter anymore after that.


Savoie and Tullio were both frequently ranked in the 2nd round, Holland would have been fully justified in grabbing either guy at 76. (I was incredulous when Savoie was still on the board when 76 rolled around, and pissed when Holland made that trade.) Instead he pulled of a major heist by trading 76 for 100+126 and grabbing BOTH guys.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 41
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Well to be fair edmonton badly wanted foudy or prokop at 76 and they went 2 picks before so their figured they might as well roll the dice bcause it just didn't matter anymore after that.


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Savoie and Tullio were both frequently ranked in the 2nd round, Holland would have been fully justified in grabbing either guy at 76. (I was incredulous when Savoie was still on the board when 76 rolled around, and pissed when Holland made that trade.) Instead he pulled of a major heist by trading 76 for 100+126 and grabbing BOTH guys.

TY TULLIO PRE-DRAFT RANKINGS
Ranked #38 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #55 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #55 by TSN/CRAIG BUTTON
Ranked #74 by MCKEEN’S HOCKEY
Ranked #52 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #40 by DOBBERPROSPECTS/ROBINSON
Ranked #80 by TSN/McKenzie
(Average: #56, 5 of 7 ranked him in the 2nd round)

CARTER SAVOIE PRE-DRAFT RANKINGS
Ranked #91 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #60 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #52 by TSN/CRAIG BUTTON
Ranked #32 by MCKEEN’S HOCKEY
Ranked #50 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #80 by DOBBERPROSPECTS/ROBINSON
Ranked #84 by TSN/McKenzie
(Average: #64, 4 of 7 ranked him in the 2nd round)

Trading #76 with these guys still on the board when the organization clearly liked both of them is clear evidence of ice-in-veins, IMO.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 45
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I'd LOVE to get Dylan Guenther, but it looks unlikely:

Ranked #11 by CONSOLIDATED RANKING
Ranked #11 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #9 by FCHOCKEY
Ranked #8 by NEUTRAL ZONE
Ranked #7 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
Ranked #8 by RECRUIT SCOUTING
Ranked #7 by DOBBERPROSPECTS
Ranked #10 by DRAFT PROSPECTS HOCKEY
Ranked #11 by SMAHT SCOUTING
Ranked #12 by THE PUCK AUTHORITY
Ranked #3 by TSN/McKenzie

However, never say never. Players rise and fall at the draft all the time, so if the Oilers hold a pick in the 15-20 range its possible this could happen. I'd put the odds at less than 10% though...
 
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