Pursuing Dubois

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Créé par: Tkachinla

Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 2 janv. 2021

Publié: 9 janv. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I think this deal, in spite of being a heavy premium to pay above Monahan’s value, makes CGY a much better team both immediately and long-term.

And the more I think about it, the more I love how these lines would work. Bennett and Lindholm can split C duty on the 2nd line.

And giving Johnny two physical play driving partners who can produce offense gives him the best chance to find his best level, IMO.

I see this lineup and believe it’s got the depth and makeup to give CGY a real shot at going deeper in the playoffs than with Monahan.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Stone, Michael		1	700 000 $

Transactions

CGY

Dubois, Pierre-Luc

CBJ

Kylington, Oliver
Monahan, Sean
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)

Rachats de contrats

Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	67 976 666 $	0 $	457 500 $	13 523 334 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Gaudreau, Johnny 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C UFA - 2	Tkachuk, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2
	Bennett, Sam 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ C UFA - 1	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
Mangiapane, Andrew 2 425 000 $2 425 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NTC UFA - 4	Leivo, Josh 875 000 $875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Dubé, Dillon 778 333 $778 333 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD, C RFA - 1	Ryan, Derek 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Simon, Dominik 700 000 $700 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3		Robinson, Buddy 700 000 $700 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Nordström, Joakim 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Giordano, Mark 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Tanev, Christopher 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 6
Hanifin, Noah 1 237 500 $1 237 500 $ DG UFA - 4	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Rittich, David 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ G UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso 894 166 $894 166 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1	Nesterov, Nikita 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Domingue, Louis 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1
Froese, Byron 725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C UFA - 2
Rinaldo, Zac 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG UFA - 1
Gawdin, Glenn 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AD UFA - 1
Mackey, Connor 925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (425 000 $$425K) DG UFA - 1
Stone, Michael 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 1

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 7

Gmonwy

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I did a PLD trade yesterday. Monahan and 1st someone said make it a 3rd. They told me Columbus takes that and runs

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 11

Tkachinla

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Quoting: Gmonwy

I did a PLD trade yesterday. Monahan and 1st someone said make it a 3rd. They told me Columbus takes that and runs

I hear that. I’m always proposing the max price I’d consider paying to get the deal done. I agree this is a substantial premium to pay to acquire Dubois. Any deal that doesn’t include a CGY 1st round pick is a great deal — that’s my take.

I could see Treliving getting a deal done for Monahan + 2021 3rd (EDM), and that would be a great move. Have to think Jarmo has bought himself enough time to earn a slightly higher return for Dubois with the recent contract and a great AAV. Cap savings are valuable.

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 13

mhockey91

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Tbh this looks solid. I’d say
PLD > Monny

So the first + Killy likely closes the value.

My issue is, I heard Monny sucks defensively. Wouldn’t he struggle under Tortz system?

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 32

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: mhockey91

Tbh this looks solid. I’d say
PLD > Monny

So the first + Killy likely closes the value.

My issue is, I heard Monny sucks defensively. Wouldn’t he struggle under Tortz system?

PLD isnt exactly great defensively.

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 33

Tkachinla

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Quoting: mhockey91

Tbh this looks solid. I’d say
PLD > Monny

So the first + Killy likely closes the value.

My issue is, I heard Monny sucks defensively. Wouldn’t he struggle under Tortz system?

I wouldn’t say he sucks defensively. He’s worked on that side of his game over the years and has improved. He’s always been in an offensive role though playing with Gaudreau. Solid on face offs. He would be much better defensively playing in a Tortorella or Trotz system.

mhockey91 a aimé ceci.

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 34

justaBoss

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Might be in the minority but I don't see Dubois being that big of an upgrade over Monahan really, at least right now.

I don't think this trade makes CGY significantly better, but instead it'll create them a huge problem with both Dubois and Gaudreau deals expiring at the same time. Especially if Dubois keeps moaning about playing in too small market team.

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 37

Tkachinla

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Quoting: justaBoss

Canadian markets are not small markets in the hockey world. Dubois is Canadian and understands that. CLB is a sleepy place to play. A great city to live, but I bought 8th row tickets to a Game 6 playoff game versus WSH a few years back for $70 USD per ticket...

Dubois went to another level we hadn’t seen yet in the playoffs this past year. And if that’s where he’s at this season and beyond, he’s a better impact player than Monahan.

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 37

Tkachinla

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9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 45

mhockey91

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

PLD isnt exactly great defensively.

He’s probably better than Monny tho

9 janv. 2021 à 13 h 52

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: mhockey91

He’s probably better than Monny tho

Sure but Monahan is better offensively. IMO they are fairly even in value. From a Flames perspective I would not do this trade and would instead attempt to acquire him with futures to have a ceter for the Tkachuk line

9 janv. 2021 à 16 h 59

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Depressed_Flames_Fan

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This is a fair trade imo

10 janv. 2021 à 1 h 42

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Tkachinla

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

My take is that Dubois would produce 70+ points steadily on a line with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. And I think he’d be a bigger producer come playoff time, while also helping Gaudreau find a better playoff edge. Monahan isn’t bringing any physical toughness when games get tough. Johnny wouldn’t have to worry about much with Dubois and Tkachuk on the ice.

+ How do you think about acquiring Dubois for futures and keeping Monahan on the books?

10 janv. 2021 à 2 h 30

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Tkachinla

I would 100% attempt to acquire Dubois with futures

11 janv. 2021 à 13 h 5

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Tkachinla

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I would 100% attempt to acquire Dubois with futures

I hear(d) that, but was asking how you think CGY could do that while navigating the cap. There isn’t space to add the super reasonable $5M AAV this season. So what kind of deal package from CGY are you thinking?

11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 11

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Tkachinla

Thats where the issue lies, ive pondered it a few times and even attempted to make a post but I always get stuck on the value and cap space. Without knowing what the Flames may look to do with the expansion draft it gets a little difficult.

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