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Créé par: Rob32sjsharks

Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2020

Publié: 14 déc. 2020

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The more I watch Johnson highlights the more I feel
He plays similar to Pavelski but not quite as good
For example most of his goals are on one timers off passes from the D, backhand shots of rebounds and scrambles in front of the net or Tips from point shots.
With two D man like Burns and Karlsson I feel Johnson can be utilized almost exactly how we did with Pav’s and he can be very successful here, and that should be enticing for him to rebound his career and why he accepts a trade to San Jose despite California’s high tax rate.
The key is how much is Tampa willing to retain to get rid of him!!! I have 2 mil here is it more or less?
At 3 mil for the next 4 years I think he is a very positive value.

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Johnson, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)

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Ibragimov, Timur
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	74 203 333 $	0 $	577 500 $	7 296 667 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kane, Evander 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 5	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 7	Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Meier, Timo 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Hertl, Tomas 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD, C, AG NTC UFA - 4
Sörensen, Marcus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Donato, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Marleau, Patrick 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1
Nieto, Matt 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Gregor, Noah 768 333 $768 333 $ (65 000 $$65K) AG, AD RFA - 1	Noesen, Stefan 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 7	Jones, Martin 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Simek, Radim 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 5	Dubnyk, Devan 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Ferraro, Mario 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG UFA - 2	Merkley, Ryan 863 333 $863 333 $ (300 000 $$300K) DD UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Gambrell, Dylan 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1
Letunov, Maxim 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1
Middleton, Jake 725 000 $725 000 $ DG UFA - 2

14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 33

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14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 34

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probs none cuz they cant afford to

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14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 34

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Quoting: Ryancnbb

probs none cuz they cant afford to

fact

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14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 40

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Quoting: Ryancnbb

probs none cuz they cant afford to

Maybe a third team does the retention and receives the compensation? But 2M x 4 years would cost a bit.

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14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 51

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Quoting: BStinson

Maybe a third team does the retention and receives the compensation? But 2M x 4 years would cost a bit.

True and if a 3rd team like Detroit was involved Tampa would have to give up a 1st, the sharks give up a 3rd and a b level prospect and everyone wins then but that is a tall order.

Sharks get Johnson at 3 mil a year For a 3rd rounder and a decent prospect

Detroit -or team to be named later- gets a B level prospect 2 3rd’s and a 1st for losing 2 mil cap space the next 4 years

Tampa gets 5 mil in cap space to sign Anthony. But gives up a 1st and a 3rd

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14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 53

yikes

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This trade doesn’t really help the sharks or lightning. What would be better is firstly giving Tampa the full cap relief since we can fit a the full brunt of his contract. And secondly we take the full incentive for taking on the full cap - and we still get a player to use on our third line to improve our depth.
This trade doesn’t help either team the way it could.

Tampa would likely prefer to get the contracts off the books and the sharks should rather acquire quality assets for doing so

Tampa is in the worst cap situation ever atleast off the top of my head in the NHL. They need to relieve like 10+ mil to be where they want

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14 déc. 2020 à 14 h 57

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The whole point of trading Johnson is to free up Cap space so they can sign their RFAs. Tampa will likely need to trade Killorn too. But JBB isn't retaining anything.

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14 déc. 2020 à 15 h 8

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

The whole point of trading Johnson is to free up Cap space so they can sign their RFAs. Tampa will likely need to trade Killorn too. But JBB isn't retaining anything.

Yea I kinda feel you there but with no one picking him up for free off waivers it’s either retain on him or trade away a plethora of picks.
Either way I’m on if we had to pick up Johnson at full 5mil we would have to trade Sorenson and only have 22 on our active roster, but it’s doable, but then Tampa would have 2 1sts comming our way and that feels like a steal of a deal and makes 3 straight years sharks get their firsts. For taking on a player and giving up Goodrow.

14 déc. 2020 à 15 h 16

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Quoting: yikes

Your right, now do we help them out for a bounty or do we go villain and offer sheet Anthony for 2 years 4.5 and try and swipe their top 2 C out from under them???

Or get super crafty talk another GM in offer sheeting Anthony then we swoop in and try and pluck Killorn or Johnson for a bag of picks so they can resign Anthony.

Or do we start camp as is see how the kids play then if needed pick up a guy like sheary or Duclair or Atheneou.

14 déc. 2020 à 15 h 17

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I need hockey I am so bored right now.

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14 déc. 2020 à 16 h 55

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I think a big reason Doug has done so little this off season is that he is unwilling to take on any significant cap hits with term. Looking forward, Hertl and Ferraro will need new contracts in 2022. The cap won’t be going up and there are no big contracts coming off the Sharks payroll. If he takes someone like TJ, he paints himself into a Tampa like corner in the future. My guess is he’s trying to add a forward with a contract that runs one or two years and a trade like this is a non-starter.

14 déc. 2020 à 17 h 4

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Quoting: ASharksFan

That’s what I thought and I posted a trade of Kane for Pavelski a couple days ago and got lambasted.
My thought we lose 10-15 goals a season between the 2 but Pavs contract is up In 2 years helps us bridge the gap when it comes up and gives us back some leadership we lost.

14 déc. 2020 à 17 h 22

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I love Pavs. I even made sure I was at the Dallas game last year so I could cheer for his return to the tank. However, we all know that contract isn’t going to end well just like we knew Marleau’s contract with Toronto wasn’t going to end well. I think Doug is trying to sign someone like Granlund to a short term deal. Plus, if we are trading with Tampa it should be for Killorn not TJ.

14 déc. 2020 à 23 h 52

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Quoting: ASharksFan

TJ is a better fit though, I know I sound crazy but TJ would fit our system and flourish I see him being a 20+ goal 45 point player most of the final years if he is here, and the Pavelski Kane trade is very very lopsided and favors Dallas but the ability to have 1 contract for a large amount come off the books when 3+!players will Need raises is my sole reason for posting the trade idea.

15 déc. 2020 à 1 h 38

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I agree that I think DW is going to be patient, at least early, like Timo's rookie year. We have a lot of young unknowns, & I think he wants to see which ones step up & are going to be a part of the future going forward.

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